That's what I thought

Judging by your last post, you are deluded buddy, you think only ARFs eye can spot potential problems? This doesent make you good.. Average at best.

Fyi ID is dead

no delusion here, getting engineers who have the motivation to 'look under the stones' so to speak, is hard even if they are perfectly capable.

iD is still available so not dead, do feel iD biscuits are now way too expensive affecting viability, which in turn will hasten their final demise. That will mean rewires, wireless or replacing with other BUS wiring technologies as used in the lightsys.

the reference to iD is to show the care (i feel) needed, even on 'simple' connections to avoid faults, even over the longer term.

id - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/iD-chip-biscuits-for-ADE-Karizma-Ultimate-or-scantronic-intruder-alarms-99p-/131020954958?pt=UK_Burglar_Alarms&hash=item1e81751d4e

Maybe we should buy them all up and then sell them at £10 a piece when none are available anymore.

Like bArron did with his 800 c&k rkps, I think he's still got 798 left, doh!

id - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/iD-chip-biscuits-for-ADE-Karizma-Ultimate-or-scantronic-intruder-alarms-99p-/131020954958?pt=UK_Burglar_Alarms&hash=item1e81751d4e

**** me, maybe I've got a pension fund in my junk store.....

Lol. But typical ebay though, just a week before and they could have had brand new ones,

all in order, for about 70p each.