james.wilson Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 To be fair to matt cubit that's a bit vague. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 To be fair to matt cubit that's a bit vague. Why? He's having a constant pop at risco yet post a sarcastic comment when Risco don't want to play the games of a total stranger. Why should Risco divvy up their firmware/data/info? Don't see any other sensible company doing it and they'd be mad to. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Way I see it is getting hold of firmware is hardly difficult is it? www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why? He's having a constant pop at risco yet post a sarcastic comment when Risco don't want to play the games of a total stranger. Why should Risco divvy up their firmware/data/info? Don't see any other sensible company doing it and they'd be mad to. If someone can break our stuff I want to know about it, and I want to know the "how" part of that. On the plus side if we have done something right and an independent like CG can verify that our stuff is better than X's i am also happy. Win win for me. I admit my first reaction to CG was to be annoyed that someone was reverse engineering our gear to possibly find flaws, but actually as we are in the security business if we have vulnerabilities i want to know about them. At least ours, Riscos and Coopers kit cannot be anywhere near as vulnerable as some DVR's that have been mentioned recently. amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'd share that view. A lot of manufacturers don't want to know but if I was in that position I'd rather know and fix it than burry my head in the sand and ignore it. My views similar on the whole 3rd party testing. Those with confidence that their kit does what they claim should have no issue in getting it done. Those fighting to avoid it you start to ask why that is. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 If someone can break our stuff I want to know about it, and I want to know the "how" part of that. On the plus side if we have done something right and an independent like CG can verify that our stuff is better than X's i am also happy. Win win for me. I admit my first reaction to CG was to be annoyed that someone was reverse engineering our gear to possibly find flaws, but actually as we are in the security business if we have vulnerabilities i want to know about them. At least ours, Riscos and Coopers kit cannot be anywhere near as vulnerable as some DVR's that have been mentioned recently. Nothing wrong with that. But somehow i suspect you'd like the info to be kept private and you told first rather than shock jock posts on a public Blog. Perhaps i'm wrong. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I hear what you're saying cubit. Equally thought when a manufacturer doesn't take a proactive view to fix an issue I think a public airing so users know the problem is justified. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I hear what you're saying cubit. Equally thought when a manufacturer doesn't take a proactive view to fix an issue I think a public airing so users know the problem is justified. But i recall you got quite uppity with all the bad publicity your companies received and you steadfastly refused to change your ways. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 But i recall you got quite uppity with all the bad publicity your companies received and you steadfastly refused to change your ways. At the time you would be right. I wouldn't have changed a thing although today you'd find my approach very different. I did get upset over some of the things in the press because they weren't true. I didn't then nor do I now have any issue with people saying something that is true. What I do get upset about is when something is not true. You will have noticed the thread the other day when some ex employee was accusing their employer of falsely claiming approval but didn't infact have any evidence. You will notice I challenged him on it to which he didn't respond. I could find no evidence to back up his claims and that thread would rank page 1 in google so his ex employers would have something bad about them on the web that wasn't true and I know how that feels. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 But much of it was true and what's more, illegal. Anyways, my response was to your inference that Risco knowingly have problems and the suggestion that you have knowledge of this. Equally, why should any company open themselves up to a chancer on the internet? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/35383-advice-please/page/10/#findComment-347710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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