matthew.brough Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 protecting land,money making scam more like.I'm not here as a spokesman for the parking industry, I've had nothing to do with it for a few years but there are places where people parking where they shouldn't causes issues for landowners and it isn't unfair they should be able to do something about that. Of course car park operators are in it for the cash, but the landowners that hire the car park operators don't hire them for cash reasons. McDonald's for example, want parking spaces for their customers and in certain places hire car park management companies to make sure spaces are available for legitimate customers. The is a macdonalds near us that often I drive past because there are no parking spaces, and each time I do, that costs then £15. The car park operators make profits form their work, but so do we as so does any private company. It amazes me how many people whine quorum getting parking tickets when they break the rules. It's like a speeding ticket, if you don't speed, you don't get them, if you do, and you drive past a camera you get a fine and some points on your license. I hardly think its unfair. Maybe it's just my black and white thought process but if you break rules, you can't cry when you get punished. Like I mentioned previously, I've only had 2 tickets and I deserved them both.No FA`s and talk of "fines" makes me wonder.No FA rates for HUD`s????? Even confirmed, we all know the end user wants to try it out to be sure. You`re coming across as the best company in the country, and I thought where I made improvements we were good.We do a good job, but so do many others. How long have you worked in the " Security Industry", a question, that is all?15 years www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Lets forget the parking stuff. Although if McDonalds carpark is full it is generally because its full of customers. In London anyway. How long have you been in this industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 protecting land,money making scam more like. Yep. A shysters charter run by scumbag cnuts. What they relied on was public ignorance and fear of authority. Problem for scammers is contract law and trespass. Shows them for what they are, and were. Got one of those so called PCNs (OKA a worthless invoice) in front of me now. Likely to be expensive for someone, but not me. You see, the problem with Law is you have to be correct, near enough just won't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Yep. A shysters charter run by scumbag cnuts. What they relied on was public ignorance and fear of authority. Problem for scammers is contract law and trespass. Shows them for what they are, and were. Got one of those so called PCNs (OKA a worthless invoice) in front of me now. Likely to be expensive for someone, but not me. You see, the problem with Law is you have to be correct, near enough just won't do. What did you get it for? www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Adsa make me laugh, 2 hour limit, and a 3 hour queue at the tills. Well at xmas, may explain the extra Africans in ill fitting uniforms But a question is being avoided, HOW long have you been in this industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Lets forget the parking stuff. Agreed, I got off topic with it. After all it is the security installer not the car park operator Although if McDonalds carpark is full it is generally because its full of customers. In London anyway. My local one is, luckily for macdonalds the little chef next door shut down recently so people use that car park now. How long have you been in this industry? 15 years www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Harris Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Parking is always going to be a contentious issue. As for our industry, as always it is risk vs cost... I like the fact that you are looking at things differently Matt. I might not agree with all of your policies, but I do like that you are not just settling for doing it like it has always been done. Every trade needs innovators, innovation is not always good but at least it questions the status quo Regarding the high false alarms rates passed to police that you mentioned, you are right that it needs to be resolved. It is simply not sustainable even though we have already made very good progress in the last decade alone. I think the best approach to this considering the attitude of our industry is to at first highlight best practise wherever it exists and shout loudly to all in the trade about it. We do a lot of peer reviewed award schemes, I would like to see more focus in these for result driven performance through structures and procedures implemented and equipment / software innovations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 . It's like a speeding ticket, if you don't speed, you don't get them, i have had a couple of speeding tickets,tho to be fair the police car wasnt 10 inches high and 20 ft up a wall.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 15 in what aspect? Alarm fitter? Service engineer? Company Owner? Sorry about the repeats, posts are crossing paths. i have had a couple of speeding tickets,tho to be fair the police car wasnt 10 inches high and 20 ft up a wall.. PMSL One particular of this was recently won agianst Tesco, where the 6x6 inch...........sign was behind the gate barrier arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I'm not here as a spokesman for the parking industry, I've had nothing to do with it for a few years but there are places where people parking where they shouldn't causes issues for landowners and it isn't unfair they should be able to do something about that. Of course car park operators are in it for the cash, but the landowners that hire the car park operators don't hire them for cash reasons. McDonald's for example, want parking spaces for their customers and in certain places hire car park management companies to make sure spaces are available for legitimate customers. The is a macdonalds near us that often I drive past because there are no parking spaces, and each time I do, that costs then £15. The car park operators make profits form their work, but so do we as so does any private company. It amazes me how many people whine quorum getting parking tickets when they break the rules. It's like a speeding ticket, if you don't speed, you don't get them, if you do, and you drive past a camera you get a fine and some points on your license. I hardly think its unfair. Maybe it's just my black and white thought process but if you break rules, you can't cry when you get punished. Like I mentioned previously, I've only had 2 tickets and I deserved them both. Still at it eh? Sneakily moralising about rules, 'the Law' fines etc. to try and give some credibility to those scamming cnuts that is the private parking industry. What was it the Judge said to the clown from Excel parking earlier this year?? "If you ever have reason to appear before me again and use that argument, make sure you bring a toothbrush!" Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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