datadiffusion

Saw something very odd yesterday, in a bank that's been refurbed about 10 times the last ten years, had a Costa added and removed (hmm, guess which bank...) still has the original 2 zone fire alarm panel. In itself nothing much of a surprise, what got me was that the panel was branded Mercury Communications, the actual phone co. Mercury with the logo and everything. Clearly a proper 80s relic. Assume the big sell was some sort of communicator as standard? Guessing C+W have long ditched the biz during their many demergers too...

Does anyone remember those grey, DIY grade diallers? Mind you RS sold them Like a plain grey box with a cheap telephone keypad in the middle. Smiths Timemaster or something. Used to piss off plod / BT as 999 was blocked but 112 wasn't. Like this one in fact - http://ezimtech.com/smiths-autodialler-p-170743.html Is it just me or is this that link a blatently fake fraudulent web shop BTW?

Is this their access control system?

http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Pyrene_Co

Sounds like a major fuse has gone to me.

Plenty do though, esp. pubs etc...

This is a really valid point but good that the changes in V4 are being made, as I was wondering today how long it will be before WPA/WPA2 is compromised just like WEP was, especially on consumer grade routers (i.e the easiest route onto said network). However, whilst a home / domestic network is possibly the easiest to bust, it's probably the least likely to be of interest to serious tealeaves I suppose. What would be interesting are sites with poorly setup guest access via wifi, commercial type places, that use such IoT products. Once access to the network is gained via friendly means (i.e daytime) it would be no trouble to return at night with wifi access from outside the premises...

If accidentally 'zoom through', you get to see a nightclub where 'half man half biscuit' were playing! https://goo.gl/maps/BjZ9s7JYj7y

My parents old house still has my 'Casa' bell on, which I only put up a year before they moved, but bet you 100% the system is dissed, as it was a Scanny 816 in the house the the (old) 9800 fitted in the garage with 2 sheds on DTs My first bell with 'my' name on is still up, forgot that, that was actually a gardtec 300 but I moved on to a firm after very few, then worked for MOD, and didn't install my own stuff again until early 2000s https://goo.gl/maps/pzm1dttZzsq No. 5, inbetween PRW at No. 4 and DIY tat. at No. 6, shite pic thou. Was called 'FSEC' then as well. Circa 1995/6.

Bump.... R40 flag cell from CPC, had no idea they sold them. http://cpc.farnell.com/univercell/db8014/battery-flag-alkaline-1-5v/dp/BT05682 My first DIY install was an Advantage A1 (tat) My first takeover / service was a Scanny 9800 My first proper installation for an electrical firm was a Gardtec 816, with the old square (but seemed so ahead of it's time) LCD keypad...

Hope it was a really worthy charity... Or wait at least 2 hours for the firs false alarm if you're using the PIRs in outbuildings?

Good luck with that, since you have to go back 12 years just to get a sniff of the original website... OP, it's tat, I'd bin it. I've unwittingly taken about 5 of these out over the years, tellingly only the 2-wire sirens were ever left, I never knew the make since, for some strange reason, the control panel bits were long gone... :hmm: https://web.archive.org/web/20040401064807/http://www.tdbm.com/

Only the most intrepid, knowledgeable, and cunning may be trade... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk%2Fcommunity%2Ftopic%2F40034-forum-trade-application%2F

Arf?

Like that but I remember finding the website at the time and def. wasn't BSB...

Right, fair enough. 2nd guess then; 'British DigiLock Ltd.'

As I say I'm going to guess. So, I'm going to start off by guessing 'Surrey Digital Lock Systems (1978) Ltd.' Quizmaster, am I right or wrong.

I think I can guess who it was - the same people who made the one I took out of an old BaE systems place a few years back I suspect. I posted about it at the time, and was amazed to find the company apparently still trading with a very 1990s looking website. Their products also seemed to be rebadged by Chubb at one time, and the website had the same ones I remember from banks back then including the 5 digit ones that were like 5 typewriter keys in a row, no numbers, in a folded metal case to hide your finger movements.

We are unable to discuss defaulting on the public side of the forum, sorry.

1992

Yes as part of Caradon plc, they bought Chloride except the battery / vehicles bit afaik. Then Honeywell bought all the non building materials off Caradon, i think...

I saw an ADE ultimate RKP for the first time last year It was so big I assume it had just been left on the wall rather than make a mess removing, next to the working Gal keypad...

The guy wondered why he was getting 'tingling' in his hands when he touched the drainer when the dishwasher was on!

BUT it must still be compliant. So if the existing installation is unsafe, you can't add to it. A classic example is a house with rubber cabling still (very unlikely to see these days) but there were a few still around when Part P first came in and although we probably would have offered a rewire or walked anyway, with Part P you had to say 'no' even if it was just a spur etc... Another good example would be the one I found the other day with everything quite tidy but NO main earth!

There is no need to 'retrospectively' work to the 17th if, say, you are in a house done to the 15th, 16th etc... A case in point is fusewire type consumer units. The Electrical Safety Council (formerly part of NICEIC) are at pains to point out in a dedicated leaflet that this does NOT mean an installation fails a PITS / EICR just for having one.