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Hates it so much he left the unhelpful forum months ago, vowing never to log in, read every thread, nor post... ...HANG ON A MINUTE!! Agreed look fooking gash and the sign of the 199 brigade when used only to make life easier imho

I always tell them there is a transaction max limit a pound or two below what they want, and take it from there.

Is that like the online version of Yomps and Yomping?

A brand of cooking sauce mate, you only get in it posh supermarkets like Tesco, not the Kwik Saves you brummies seem to favour. Ta. I'm not saying CCTV is worthless, far from it, but IMHO it needs to be done properly or not at all, and be properly managed. In my experience domestic setups are rarely either.

Nope, most burglaries are drug fuelled and opportunist. They will stay that way for ever, until the day an alarm-busting 'app' is released that can be used by pressing one button by the typical knuckle-grazing crim (and for the record it would not be worth any hacker or developer releasing such an app to the great unwashed, even if they could make it work). The typical burglar would not have the knowledge nor inclination to defeat even a 1980s one zone, keyswitch system Hence my usual line that CCTV is no defence at all. Police are unlikely to be interested, criminals are often of the attitude that they don't care about getting caught, a couple of hours in the nick at worst and it just gets added to the long list they are already on probation for. CCTV will only confirm that the window is smashed and the TV is missing. You will find this out from coming home and seeing it with your own eyes. An alarm will alert you to the fact at the exact moment (if installed correctly) and may add to the mix of uncertainty for the criminal with sirens going etc... A decent looking (i.e. not plain white from Newlec) bellbox is 100% more a deterrent than CCTV IMHO.

Agree, and this will be a major stumbling block to anyone trying to 'DIY it. However, I'm not sure it will explode if you don't set that combination of dip switches within a month of installation, but I know it can get very hot, and several have caught fire; thankfully they have been in installations that included Nest Sprinkler, as it happens.

Yup had a Siemens IR240 in a garage (one uninsulated wall and the door, rest part of house) on one job against my feelings at the time, been fine for ten years, panel set daily. Of course, it's been dissed for 9 of those years (joke)

I'm just wondering, to be sure it isn't a dialler issue, have you tested the dialler by dapping a -ve wire onto the trigger, avoiding the panel completely?

Agreed with all the above really. If it's time to change the PIRs, it's time to change the panel if its 20 years old. DA are long gone and if it's a plastic case model look for scorch marks around the inner PSU PCB (hidden by the alarm PCB normally) Although ironically Bosch (who bought DA) are still in the UK security market as you can see, just not selling actual alarm panels right now. And I'm with PJ in that dualtechs are not the 'obvious' answer; PIRs have come a long way, and, as you've said it's DIY (although trade fitters can be guilty) placement and system (layout) design is 80% of a successful installation this trade. I have dualtechs in a couple of rooms and outhouses, but most rooms I have Quad PIRs (from the same manufacturer so they all look the same) as there is no need for DTs everywhere. With decent PIRs and something like a Scantronic 9561 or a Euro Mini, you could still achieve your budget BTW. But remember it's only cheap if you're time is free. Sounds like this system has taken up quite a bit of your and your neighbours time/goodwill to date?

Does the unit work OK when manually triggered with a free wire?

As above + is it always the same zone?

So, you say it's served you well - when did the FAs start in relation to having installed the system, and how long ago is 'some years'?

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Like everything though, fine as long as it doesn't next go wrong at 3AM whilst you're on holiday. Having seen how poor the design is, what will you do to stop water getting in again? We don't advocate violence on this forum so a Senior H&S / Legal Compliance Mod removed it.

Any SAB siren will be compatible. It's really up to you which one you like the look of most.

Yeah, that's what you call a 'post design modification', oh dear Honeywell, ffs!

Is that why you've always got at least 4 in the shed for rush jobs?

20 years ago might have had a chance, now the distinction between and alarm and a 'home automation' system would keep the courts busy for years... The ultimate test of 'is it an alarm you're installing?' would be an external siren I suppose, but hardly anyone DIY / low end fits them. I don't even fit them if it's monitored!

Bottom two pictures definately have issues with water damage. Bin. Personally I would buy quality sirens like Texecom. Elmdene etc... where the electronics are enclosed.

Agreed should not even be on site, supervised or not, at this level

Trust me, Usbourne Electronics https://www.amazon.co.uk/Introduction-Electronics-Basic-Guide-Beasant/dp/0860208095/ Up to you if you take me up on it, its a serious recommendation.

Guessing that was at least 2-3 years ago?

Nah, they just tell you that. Believe me, they will sell it to anyone, as long as you tell them the magic phrase 'have applied for' or even 'am thinking about' SSAIB/NSI