PeterJames

Send your CV out to local companies, if your happy to take a pay cut while training this is the best way to get into this industry. There are many things to learn in this industry that you will not learn from a text book or classroom. Panel wiring for instance originally it was two circuit per device then there was EOL and every manufacturers use their own combination of EOL then there is ID biscuit, and other manufacturers have their own ID type systems. There are hundreds of different panels out there and to be a worthy engineer you need to know what your doing with all of them, its no good turning up at Mr& Mrs Smiths and saying sorry this panel wasnt covered in the Tavcom course we need to change the panel. Most co's will take on mature trainees with a clean drivers license, you are more likely to turn up everyday and more willing to graft in most cases.

Sorry we cannot give defaulting info here, but it is in the manual LOL about Shaved monkeys and House Bashers

Both maintenance's seem steep but I am no where near you so, they may not be that steep, If its fully comp then its a reasonable charge in comparison to what I would charge ( I do not really do fully comp). You sound like you are quite capable, if you can change the batteries yourself, but you dont need to install a new one just default the codes and reprogram the one you have

There's your problem

I already knew this but the op didnt

What voltage did you get at the pa button?

Link it out at the detector, if it still keeps going off then its either the panel or the cable, if it stops then its the ultrasonic

I suppose they have become collectable now, like a classic car. I wonder what my 4 track 999 dallier is worth?

I havent read the full thread so I may have missed something here, but If the kit is faulty and not in warranty, it makes a difference, you own it not the installer so if it goes wrong its down to you to pay for it to be put right. If you purchase anything else and it was out of warranty you would pay for it to be repaired. Just because the co installed it and services does not mean that they should be looking after it free of charge forever. The same as you could drive out of your garage after having your car serviced and get a puncture, its not the garages fault.

Difficult to say either way, if you are right then the engineer should be looking for another job, working for somone he feels he can work for morally.

But its your alarm system

Sadly I would have to agree, quite often engineers are unaware of the details of the contracts and make their own assumptions. You could say that the engineers boss should make sure that he is familiar with all the contracts out there. But I would it his his job is to engineer and not terms and conditions, IMO he is trying and make himself look good in front of a customer, its true that the customer is the ultimate bill payer but £30pm wont pay his wages alone. Very few of my engineers are familiar with the terms of customers contracts mainly because we have several types of contract and it would be difficult retain all the ins and outs of every contract out there . We also have the one off deal where the installation is cheaper but the customer pays more per month, and one off deals where customer pays more up front but everything is covered. If the engineer is unsure of the terms he should say nothing, but presenting a completely opposite opinion to his boss is just putting his own job in jeopardy for sure.

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Hello and welcome and have a good evening

We are a long way from Scotland but our charge for standard contract (That means parts and callouts are charged extra) and monitoring digi would be around £30 more per annum or £18.00 per month in other words plus VAT

The problem is we dont know what colours the installer used, you should have a wire in terminal 7 my guess would be green. and the twist the blue and yellow together. the system wont reset until the lid is on the detector. Also you may have blown the internal fuse when you cut the wire.

Id go as far to say cheap

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Use an output that fires a relay when part set to diss the sounder outputs

Hi Richard and welcome I see you have applied for trade please PM your evidence over, you need to make two more posts according to the rules

Where exactly is the bullying? Nobody has taken your lunch money. Everyone has given answers to your questions, Ive just gone back and read them all and none of them were threatening. Everyone that has participated in answering has said it depends on the project (In their own words) which is another way of saying that none of us have a set setup we all install cameras to the customers needs and adjust accordingly. I cannot see the arrogance you describe, they are replies, I can see the frustration in your replies, as if the answers given are not really sensible or something

As I remember they were a bit a of bugger to program two phone menus one for the built in digi the other was for dialer and both very similar I often made the mistake of being in the wrong one

LOL I wasnt taking the piss I was trying to explain how it is. Nobody here is out to get you, you just need to try and get us

It may come across that way but its not intended too, its a nerdy forum full of nerds that sometimes have difficulty getting theyre point across. But sometimes the other nerds are not listening unless its something they were expecting to hear.