james.wilson Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 Whats the thoughts on how this may affect cctv ie if defence case uses same footage and changes the face to the defence KC etc I notice a lot of diy type cameras only ave footage in mp4 format not in a native secure format. 'I was deepfaked by my best friend' - BBC News securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46645-deep-fakes-and-cctv/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 47 minutes ago, james.wilson said: Whats the thoughts on how this may affect cctv ie if defence case uses same footage and changes the face to the defence KC etc I notice a lot of diy type cameras only ave footage in mp4 format not in a native secure format. 'I was deepfaked by my best friend' - BBC News This occurs already tho right ? don't you watch movies? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46645-deep-fakes-and-cctv/#findComment-522277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 Having listened to the podcast already it's not related, images came from social media. It will take a defence lawyer to get the evidence thrown out on possible deepfake grounds, for change to happen. If you handle evidence properly with decent kit it shouldn't be an issue. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46645-deep-fakes-and-cctv/#findComment-522278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 4, 2024 Author Share Posted April 4, 2024 agreed but most systems are not managed properly nor is it decent kit securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46645-deep-fakes-and-cctv/#findComment-522279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 This is why to be admissible in court the recordings have to be in original format and watermarked. MP4 is okay for minor crimes where in most cases the crim puts his hands up when he sees the footage because he doesnt know the rules. But if you need evidence that sticks it must be in original format 1 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46645-deep-fakes-and-cctv/#findComment-522281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 59 minutes ago, PeterJames said: This is why to be admissible in court the recordings have to be in original format and watermarked. MP4 is okay for minor crimes where in most cases the crim puts his hands up when he sees the footage because he doesnt know the rules. But if you need evidence that sticks it must be in original format Althought it doesn't have to be in original format aslong you can prove the audit trail , then no watermark needed either , atleast that what I have seen Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46645-deep-fakes-and-cctv/#findComment-522286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 4, 2024 Author Share Posted April 4, 2024 50 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Althought it doesn't have to be in original format aslong you can prove the audit trail , then no watermark needed either , atleast that what I have seen i dont think thats right Al, downloaded of a mobile phone app, then sent to a pc to be stored on usb or dvd etc. No-one does it right unless the maintaniner is asked to download the footage securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46645-deep-fakes-and-cctv/#findComment-522292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 1 hour ago, james.wilson said: i dont think thats right Al, downloaded of a mobile phone app, then sent to a pc to be stored on usb or dvd etc. No-one does it right unless the maintaniner is asked to download the footage I guess so, these days they just take the nvr or dvr with them and that's there trail lol Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/46645-deep-fakes-and-cctv/#findComment-522293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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