ryan2323 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Hi all, I have a Visonic Powermax Alarm System for my home. After 3 years use I had the error code appear saying Z02 Low battery. I googled the issue and found , "Z01/Z02 etc - Refers to a battery fitted in a magnetic contact or PIR detector etc." I ordered the exact battery (GP Lithium CR2) from Amazon and after operating as normal for a day, the error code has come back again - Z02. Has anyone else had similar experiences with these alarms and can point me in the right direction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Systems need servicing, batteries don't last forever. I would replace all the device batteries if it's been that long, even if only one is showing. Do you know what device Z02 is, sensors are CR123. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Also never use cheap nasty batteries if it's reporting low battery, still, chances are it's cheap poor quality batteries Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 34 minutes ago, james.wilson said: Also never use cheap nasty batteries if it's reporting low battery, still, chances are it's cheap poor quality batteries Random battery's from amazon have never been an issue for me, any old tat will do 2 years However visonic radio tat does weird stuff with age, I rip it out & fit something from Rotherham' silicon valley 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Agreed they do fail with age and it is old one-way stuff, so weak security for low risk. Still would expect battery fault to clear at least for a week or so with a faulty device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 10 hours ago, MrHappy said: Random battery's from amazon have never been an issue for me, any old tat will do 2 years Ive had them leak and destroy terminals as well as just not lasting. Only use duracell or panasonic now Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 54 minutes ago, james.wilson said: Ive had them leak and destroy terminals as well as just not lasting. Only use duracell or panasonic now Cr123's I had number of panasonic (red & gold) have very short life's of weeks or months, Out of thousands - Camelion couple of weepy ones in the packet, the only failure in the field was a risco keypad melting ! Hundreds of Rapthor no issues, liked the packaging best ! I say the best quality lithium's batteries are GP, However I suspect the best & worst could well be the same stuff made in the same factory ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 If you don't turn over loads of them to pick out the bad explody ones. Then look for UL listed then you know they meet a safe standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 For different applications my go to has always been GP, they were also ADTs preferred, but I guess that will have also been due to price and kickback. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I have been using panasonic for years, no issues. Had a detector go tits up a couple of weeks ago on a powermax plus, devices no longer available. But before knew replacements were not available, i did mention to the mega money client, might be worth upgrading the system! You know the reply lol. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Surprised to find these in radio smokes ... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Mr Chu's? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 44 minutes ago, norman said: Mr Chu's? Wong, private house with box fresh Pyronix radio smoke Pairdeer if there good enough for pyronix..... I might have to shell out for Duracell Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Ah, I was going by the placemats... Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 8 hours ago, norman said: Ah, I was going by the placemats... its a cabinet in the hallway house in a court yard, there a another 2 systems of mine there one is an adhoc repair the other mong paid me £5 short for a CMV, despite having maybe 15yrs of being on maintenance one of these houses had an RS6 parked parked in their bit of the court yard, which a well know for their cheap purchase price & low running costs... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Love the subtle humour, lol Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 30/07/2022 at 22:03, MrHappy said: Wong, private house with box fresh Pyronix radio smoke Pairdeer if there good enough for pyronix..... I might have to shell out for Duracell Just does not look right, opening up a security/fire device from a main player and seeing back street chinky batteries. 23 hours ago, norman said: Ah, I was going by the placemats... Lol, that's Dave's house! Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 9 hours ago, Adi said: Just does not look right, opening up a security/fire device from a main player and seeing back street chinky batteries. Moto something along with pyronix branded are the normal items. However I'd assumed most of the leading brand won't produce all their product in house ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted Thursday at 21:25 Share Posted Thursday at 21:25 On 01/08/2022 at 08:23, MrHappy said: Moto something along with pyronix branded are the normal items. However I'd assumed most of the leading brand won't produce all their product in house ? I agree mate. ..and on a slight tangent, after a call out this week, (and had many issues over the years), is Pyronix's poor choice of wireless bell battery. Trying to F*** firms over with a non standard poxy sized battery, that is not fit for purpose, (thats why they changed the design) (to a just as **** design). They use standard sized CR123 batteries in nearly all their devices, then act a C*** with bell and RKP batts Why not just use CR123 for every device. Standard stock item for any alarm firm. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted Thursday at 21:37 Share Posted Thursday at 21:37 9 minutes ago, Adi said: I agree mate. ..and on a slight tangent, after a call out this week, (and had many issues over the years), is Pyronix's poor choice of wireless bell battery. Trying to F*** firms over with a non standard poxy sized battery, that is not fit for purpose, (thats why they changed the design) (to a just as **** design). They use standard sized CR123 batteries in nearly all their devices, then act a C*** with bell and RKP batts Why not just use CR123 for every device. Standard stock item for any alarm firm. Risco Agility EWD has 5 x cr123... Pyronix 2 x square battery are double the cost but more Ah The round "eve" battery in older pyonix are 40% dearer than the 2 sqaure ones? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted Thursday at 23:02 Share Posted Thursday at 23:02 1 hour ago, MrHappy said: Risco Agility EWD has 5 x cr123... Pyronix 2 x square battery are double the cost but more Ah The round "eve" battery in older pyonix are 40% dearer than the 2 sqaure ones? So from the days of me using risko, one of their plus points was the cr123's in the bell. Obviously Pyronix designers couldnt the current draw down enough. Like you say with the pricing with pyronix battery prices, proper piss take. I have just been looking at another easy and cheap way to replace their pants down battery (I have looked into it before) but reckon i am close to a solution, so long as i can get a 10 CR123 battery holder in the bell housing. You only need 8 CR123 batteries to equal a pants down battery, but in this day and age, i think its reasonable that a bell battery should last two years, or even replace bell batt yearly with five cr123's. But not twenty quid roger my **** that can not last two years and still have some umff to ring the bell. I am sure tech said you can only have 4 two minute bell activations in two years, WTF. I have been meaning to post, is anyone using Ajax? Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted Thursday at 23:53 Share Posted Thursday at 23:53 50 minutes ago, Adi said: is anyone using Ajax? that self cert thing complaint to EN that doesnt actually comply to EN? No thanks Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted Friday at 00:16 Share Posted Friday at 00:16 21 minutes ago, james.wilson said: that self cert thing complaint to EN that doesnt actually comply to EN? No thanks Well, I didnt know that mate, just assumed it was compliant. Thanks for letting us know. At its price bracket, you'd of thought it was approved as such. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted Friday at 00:21 Share Posted Friday at 00:21 27 minutes ago, james.wilson said: that self cert thing complaint to EN that doesnt actually comply to EN? No thanks What are the non compliance's then? They seem to say its EN to G2. Quote I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted Friday at 09:03 Share Posted Friday at 09:03 Something to do with the keypad clause 8.5.1, ive never used it though. Quote securitywarehouse https://store.securitywarehouse.co.uk Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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