datadiffusion Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Everything depends on what you were trained on, as I've said before we were unusual back in the mid 90s in only installing LCD Gardtec 816s etc..., so would feel very odd to me downgrading new installations nearly 30 years later! I'm not saying I didn't play with LED panels but have only ever installed one, a gardec 300 or similar) after that I started contracting for the above firm and changed all my subsequent work to 9651 or better straight away (don't ask why I didn't use gardtec again!). Even my first ever system crash (my parents) at the age of 13 or something stupid was a 9800. I do agree that for some DIY the scope will be limited to exact replacements, also if you are not going to convert from global tamper to EoL, then there is a fair bit less benefit. Edited September 7, 2019 by datadiffusion So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Hi data: There's no argument, we just have different opinions. When I first started, we were using Bentley 2 zone battery only panels for domestic stuff. At one time (Later years) we were using Gardtec kit as well, a lot of people disliked them with a passion but I think they did exactly what it said on the box. I only use LCD panels and EOL or wireless for installs but if someone asked me to fit an LED panel, I wouldn't have a problem with doing that. Edited September 7, 2019 by Specialist Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 May just be me but I'd much prefer a Veritas over a Gardtic 816. OTOH I don't agree with having the customer select the panel and fit LED from new. They have called an engineer out for advice but want you to fit LED against your advice, rings alarm bells (excuse the pun). Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Wasn't actually thinking about using LED for a new system at the time, but in the context of replacing like for like. Having said that, if someone who had bought a system with an LED panel couldn't install it. I wouldn't turn down the installation just because it was an LED panel. Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Specialist said: Hey al: You've been marked down by a troll, yay me too. Ah well at least I'm in good company that's me and Data in the same "shed" Fixed ...... Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 What's fixed buddy ? Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Wrestling So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Random but yep Wrestling is definitely fixed . Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Specialist said: What's fixed buddy ? Your comment lol 1 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Why what was wrong with my comment ?. Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/43095-ade-optima-compact/page/3/#findComment-488546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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