datadiffusion Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Get a fire company in for a quote and get wallet out Probably not going to help if it needs to be wired to make it the appropriate detector. Wasted opportunity though having building work done and not putting wires in 13 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Is the company specialising in intruder alarms or they jack of all trades ? Nothing wrong with a mainly intruder co. doing domestic fire, after all the rules are pretty simple in private dwellings. But not knowing about smokes not being suitable for a Kitchen is a bit worrying. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: Probably not going to help if it needs to be wired to make it the appropriate detector. Wasted opportunity though having building work done and not putting wires in Nothing wrong with a mainly intruder co. doing domestic fire, after all the rules are pretty simple in private dwellings. But not knowing about smokes not being suitable for a Kitchen is a bit worrying. Point behind intruder company Allot of them actually only have basic experience in fire , as the fire companies have basic experience in intruder Few smaller companies hold expertise in both when a problem occurs Just now, al-yeti said: Point behind intruder company Allot of them actually only have basic experience in fire , as the fire companies have basic experience in intruder Few smaller companies hold expertise in both when a problem occurs Or they just to busy to give it real attention, small contract not being worth much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 To me it seems a case of using wireless for ease over considering the potential false alarms. If there wasn't an issue you wouldn't be concerned how they work. The devices themselves are pretty decent in the correct environment, they are manufactured in partnership with Apollo. I have only seen one failure and that was a week after someone had all there internal doors off to sand and paint them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: If there wasn't an issue you wouldn't be concerned how they work. Id have to say given the opportunity I'd still to this day choose wired everytime, until the day batteries last 10 years+ Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David N Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 26/07/2019 at 16:53, datadiffusion said: Id have to say given the opportunity I'd still to this day choose wired everytime, until the day batteries last 10 years+ Some of the batteries are lasting less than a year. They want a £60 visit fee every time one needs changing. I have insisted that they are all changed on annual service. One of the engineers told me that the system could be enabled for me to change a battery but the installers said this option wasn’t available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 I would leave it to the maintainer but batteries should last more than 2years. Manufacture spec may say much higher but I'd still go every other year. If its failing before that I'd replace the device. Also as your 7 years into device design its close Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Yes it's possible to change your own batteries but possible and a good idea are 2 different things. I wouldnt get involved in that especially if your insisting on annual changes Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 9 hours ago, james.wilson said: I would leave it to the maintainer but batteries should last more than 2years. Manufacture spec may say much higher but I'd still go every other year. If its failing before that I'd replace the device. Also as your 7 years into device design its close Agreed 2 years is about right for a change and unless cheap nasty batts are being used all decent detectors should last 1yr + from real world experience. Don't know in depth about Texe wireless but is it possible some detectors are not sleeping properly? Assume Ricochet types? I certainly had no issues with batteries when I did the largeish Ricochet installation a few years back, in fact thinking about it I never had a single low battery in 2.5 years... (I usually change at 2 as well but it was a charity job and I had access whenever I wanted). That was a mixture of PIRs, vibes and contacts. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David N Posted July 29, 2019 Author Share Posted July 29, 2019 The Control4 system piggy backs PIRs to trigger auto lighting so I expect those to run down. But it’s been window vibration things that have been going flat mainly. Duracell they use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, David N said: The Control4 system piggy backs PIRs to trigger auto lighting so I expect those to run down Ah... so even though the C4 is connected via IP, the detectors are prevented from sleeping. That's probably why then, I'm very surprised that is 'recommended' by Texe on the grounds of battery life. Edited July 29, 2019 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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