KWCFC Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Looking to buy one of these, anyone recommend any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 I have a fluke set but bought cheaper set. They both perform well Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) Take a look at the Ideal or Test-um ranges, both excellent value for money. Think Test-um is under the JDSU brand now, a few used Ideal sets on eBay at the moment for very little money. I bought an Ideal abs set today as a Toolbag set for £15 brand new. As James said, there are cheaper sets about. They actually Start about £10 for a Chinese made set. Edited June 2, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, Specialist said: Take a look at the Ideal or Test-um ranges, both excellent value for money. Think Test-um is under the JDSU brand now, a few used Ideal sets on eBay at the moment for very little money. I bought an Ideal abs set today as a Toolbag set for £15 brand new. As James said, there are cheaper sets about. They actually Start about £10 for a Chinese made set. Good deal on the ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Yes mate, at the price I couldn't say no. You know yourself they're not something we use every day, but can be very useful. The test-um is too expensive to be knocking about in the bag day in & day out, so if you pardon the pun: the Ideal will be, well ideal & also apparently functions like a sort of mini butt set. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Specialist said: Yes mate, at the price I couldn't say no. You know yourself they're not something we use every day, but can be very useful. The test-um is too expensive to be knocking about in the bag day in & day out, so if you pardon the pun: the Ideal will be, well ideal & also apparently functions like a sort of mini butt set. As a house basher I use it often , even the odd commercial job that I don't bother labelling I need it lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) What, you mean when those lovely plasterers chop your cables ? Or decide it'll be great fun to move them from where you put them ?. On one big site we were doing, they had overnight security to stop theft etc. But our cables & the sparks cables were still getting chopped, so we rigged up 2 cameras in one block that had just been 1st fixed. Caught the bloody security guard Red handed chopping cables. I don't use mine that often, cos I'm a good boy & always label my cables . Edited June 3, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Specialist said: What, you mean when those lovely plasterers chop your cables ? Or decide it'll be great fun to move them from where you put them ?. On one big site we were doing, they had overnight security to stop theft etc. But our cables & the sparks cables were still getting chopped, so we rigged up 2 cameras in one block that had just been 1st fixed. Caught the bloody security guard Red handed chopping cables. I don't use mine that often, cos I'm a good boy & always label my cables . Nah I just lazy on labelling , first fix hardly ever label , I see some IT guys doing there second fix , swearing about the first fix with nothing labelled ,but none of them carry the probe they don't even know how to buzz them out ,although if you have 100cat5 and looking for only one it will take them some time without a tone tester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Yeah I can't say I'd want to go back to the old days of belling cables out, especially on large installs. Too much like hard work . Most of the time I'm pretty good at marking up cables on 1st fix, but when your rushing to do a site things get missed. That's when the tracer is a godsend . Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Some installs need labelling especially if you have a lot or it isn't you coming back. I would argue some installs are not worth labelling. For example if domestic I would often wait until all the devices are up and flash them on the battery while wiring up so they can then be labelled in the finished controls. Sometimes old skool is still the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) On small installs it's not too much of a problem doing it the old way but on bigger stuff it used to be a pain. Edited June 3, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Specialist said: On small installs it's not too much of a problem doing it the old way but on bigger stuff it used to be a pain. How come your not in trade yet? There's ways to blag your way in stuff your good at Need to do your head in the dark side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Pj's probably still vetting him, it's an age thing. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) Hi Al: Just PM'd you. Hey norm: Can't blame Peter mate, he's innocent . Edited June 3, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Meh! Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) Well the Ideal abs arrived and have to say: I'm totally underwhelmed with it, nothing like Ideal stuff I've used in the past. This feels cheap & nasty, more like a kids toy to be honest. The tone generator or thrower as they call it uses a non standard battery which will be a pain, luckily the seller put new batteries in so I was able to try it out. Definitely not impressed, you have to be almost on top of the cable to be able to use the tracer. Not had a chance to try the butt test side yet but will give it a try on the weekend and hope that works better. Edited June 7, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 what tat have you bought ? (link?) Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, MrHappy said: what tat have you bought ? (link?) Hey Mr H, Don't have a link for it unfortunately but it's the ideal abs tone thrower and probe. It was only a cheap thing where I bought it but apparently they're normally about £70, so would have expected more. Probably something else where production has been transferred to Asia. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, Specialist said: Hey Mr H, Don't have a link for it unfortunately but it's the ideal abs tone thrower and probe. It was only a cheap thing where I bought it but apparently they're normally about £70, so would have expected more. Probably something else where production has been transferred to Asia. Ideal are good Is it blue in colour? Although they have few versions older ones were good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Hi Al: I used to use ideal testers and never had a problem with them, but this is nowhere like them. Yes mate, it's blue in colour. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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