james.wilson Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I have finally had a response from dudley MBC planning dept regarding this. It is their view that a logo on a backlit bellbox is indeed a backlit sign and will require planning permission on a case by case basis. Some domestics will be permitted without planning consent but commercials and domestics in low light areas or light pollution areas will require consent. I am awaiting a written response and will update on this. But in dudley at least if you want to fit one of these you need to check each one with the planning dept first. Glad we dont use them! securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I have finally had a response from dudley MBC planning dept regarding this. It is their view that a logo on a backlit bellbox is indeed a backlit sign and will require planning permission on a case by case basis. Some domestics will be permitted without planning consent but commercials and domestics in low light areas or light pollution areas will require consent. I am awaiting a written response and will update on this. But in dudley at least if you want to fit one of these you need to check each one with the planning dept first. Glad we dont use them! Oh dear! I see loads of these around but I must admit apart from the Abel one I don't think they look that smart. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 All the Delta bells we've fitted the customer has rang up and asked us to turn off the backlight so we leave them off now. The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 Yet to find out what the fine is and if the installer is responsible for it if not advised planning may be needed. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwillis Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The pyronix ones around here have a strip of LEDs in the middle and they look **** at night and you still can't see who's bell it is. The backlit plates are better but still look naff IMO, I agree the Abel bells look canny tho Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alterEGO Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I hope its the same up here I know someone that might have some work to do. I have a feeling they will allow it though. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 id like to see what happens if someone complains to the planning dept about one. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alterEGO Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Do it, must be someone local to you that you don't like that uses them. I would report you but alas you don't use them. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 lol. I dont know ill look around. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I'm not convinced they will take action or enforce it. Wigan MBC use the Deltabell on their own systems! Most councils can't even enforce Part P properly and that's been around nearly 10 years. Trade Member Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34271-backlit-bellbox-planning-permission-req/#findComment-310693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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