I have finally had a response from dudley MBC planning dept regarding this. It is their view that a logo on a backlit bellbox is indeed a backlit sign and will require planning permission on a case by case basis. Some domestics will be permitted without planning consent but commercials and domestics in low light areas or light pollution areas will require consent.

 

I am awaiting a written response and will update on this. But in dudley at least if you want to fit one of these you need to check each one with the planning dept first.

Glad we dont use them!

I have finally had a response from dudley MBC planning dept regarding this. It is their view that a logo on a backlit bellbox is indeed a backlit sign and will require planning permission on a case by case basis. Some domestics will be permitted without planning consent but commercials and domestics in low light areas or light pollution areas will require consent.

 

I am awaiting a written response and will update on this. But in dudley at least if you want to fit one of these you need to check each one with the planning dept first.

Glad we dont use them!

Oh dear! I see loads of these around but I must admit apart from the Abel one I don't think they look that smart.

All the Delta bells we've fitted the customer has rang up and asked us to turn off the backlight so we leave them off now. 

Yet to find out what the fine is and if the installer is responsible for it if not advised planning may be needed.

The pyronix ones around here have a strip of LEDs in the middle and they look **** at night and you still can't see who's bell it is.

The backlit plates are better but still look naff IMO, I agree the Abel bells look canny tho

I hope its the same up here I know someone that might have some work to do. I have a feeling they will allow it though.

id like to see what happens if someone complains to the planning dept about one.

Do it, must be someone local to you that you don't like that uses them. I would report you but alas you don't use them.

lol. I dont know ill look around.

I'm not convinced they will take action or enforce it. Wigan MBC use the Deltabell on their own systems! Most councils can't even enforce Part P properly and that's been around nearly 10 years.