June 13, 201015 yr comment_241635 cubit it maybe but again afaik an installer cant use those words. as im assuming this is a setup etc its probably from our website is it? if it is its still wrong and it needs changing. No, it wasn't/isn't a setup. It was to highlight the problems, assumptions, interpretions and misinterpretations that can be made from perfectly valid statements. If it is the case that the Bizzies WILL respond/attend (assuming systems qualify with relevant force rules in play at time), then both statements are true. If it is NOT the case the bizzies WILL attend, then both statements are wrong. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241635 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr comment_241637 Qualify = Meet the criteria Guarantee = Promise,assurance,pledge The trick is in the words the first suggesting you will get Police response, the second is suggesting you will qualify for Police response all the while you meet the criteria. If you lose Police response because of False calls you no longer qualify, so therefore Police response cannot be guaranteed Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241637 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr comment_241639 Qualify = Meet the criteria Guarantee = Promise,assurance,pledge The trick is in the words the first suggesting you will get Police response, the second is suggesting you will qualify for Police response all the while you meet the criteria. If you lose Police response because of False calls you no longer qualify, so therefore Police response cannot be guaranteed that point IS made in both statements Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241639 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr comment_241642 that point IS made in both statements Its made but it doesnt suggest the same thing, I think im losing Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241642 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr comment_241646 Full police response alarm system £50 T&Cs bollox bollox bollox, failure to comply with any clause or getou we can think of to avoid us compensating poor sucker of a customer cancels our commitment to honour said agreement. bollox bollox bollox You get the gist. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241646 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr Author comment_241652 damn thats one of my contracts securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241652 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr comment_241655 Its made but it doesnt suggest the same thing, I think im losing Fraid so Pete. With the added statement underneath, both headlines are factually correct. - in terms of the headline. I'll leave it to you masons or accredited companies to decide whether the actual statements themselves are factually correct. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241655 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr comment_241661 Fraid so Pete. With the added statement underneath, both headlines are factually correct. - in terms of the headline. I'll leave it to you masons or accredited companies to decide whether the actual statements themselves are factually correct. Where did the qualify statement come from though Andrew? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241661 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr comment_241666 Where did the qualify statement come from though Andrew? this one The Police will no longer respond to a bell-only alarm, unless there is additional evidence of a crime being committed. The Police will respond to a monitored alarm which qualifies for Police response. However if you have a bell-only alarm system you are relying on your neighbours to quickly come to your aid, which may put them at risk, and you cannot be sure that they will always be there to respond. http://www.directresponsesecurity.co.uk/the-benefits-of-monitoring.asp or The Police may longer respond to a bell-only alarm, unless there is additional evidence of a crime being committed. The Police will respond to a monitored alarm which qualifies for Police response. However if you have a bell-only alarm system you are relying on your neighbours to quickly come to your aid, which may put them at risk, and you cannot be sure that they will always be there to respond second ones via a link on this forum edit - add link. Edited June 13, 201015 yr by IAS Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241666 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
June 13, 201015 yr comment_241668 Where did the qualify statement come from though Andrew? Both statements came from websites with NSI/SSAIB badges on them. In terms of the statements themselves, you could substitute alarm/police for say, car/breakdown recovery. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29043-direct-response-security-on-rogue-traders/page/23/#findComment-241668 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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