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Burn the witch ^^^

I disagree H, I think the 9943 was slimmer and smaller, it won a design award, Red Dot one which has some pretty good stuff in its award history...

Very fiddly tamper switches on the original 9800 and all 9600 keypads, be prepared to 'pad out' the tamper switch plastic tongue on the 'wall' side...

Unless you're in millionaires row with a security guard there's nowhere in Bristol I'd consider 'safe'... I have a few customers in 'gentrified' areas of the city and some of the stories, and the lengths burglars will go to (jemmying open windows on the front street in broad daylight, telling shocked onlookers to 'f**k off if they didn't want to get hurt' was the latest). Anyway, dogs and rabbits need be no barrier to a decent alarm, inexpensive modern PIRs can cope with them admirably. So as above, if not being used I'd chalk it down to being broken and have it properly de-activated, as otherwise the battery in the main system box will eventually fail (if it hasn't already) and cause even more issues that will annoy the neighbours. The remaining dead bellbox will be just as much a deterrent/use as an unset alarm but with none of the issues...

If it's a tamper fault it's unlikely it needs replacing at all, I would look carefully at the tamper switch or spring (depends on model) and if required refix or rotate the tamper block (round plastic, looks a bit like a pop bottle cap with a hole in the middle on older keypad) or simply fix a No. 6 woodscrew in the tamper hole on a newer model and/or check the spring is still 'springy' enough and/or not being bent over by excess wiring etc...

No eng keypad connections on the panel?

Agreed texe are a PIA to prog via keypad for a 'casual' user, UDL worth it's weight in gold with them.

That's true but just to reiterate to the OP that the GSM version is NOT the app, it's a very basic one-way messaging system.

Yeah you could in theory fit both a ComWifi/IP and a ComGSM (I guess) with the Prems 2 slots, but the only real way to make it dual path without going down the webway etc... route would be with a 3/4G stick on a compatible router...

Yes, ComWifi gives you the app. The downside is the single path - burglar smashes your phone line, bye bye comms... That's the one thing GSM will save you from, but will leave you only knowing there's been 'an alarm', not that it was turned off 2 minutes later by a family member etc... nor that it was the garage and then back door so probably real... As previously Richochet is just the name for the wireless which is an add-on the texecom panel, same as the Comwifi is. To be honest if the alarm main system box is going anywhere near your broadband router the wired ComIp would be better yet as half the problems seem to come from the 'wifi' side of the ComWifi. Having a network cable connection between the alarm and router is my preference (even if it's via a powerline plug).

GSM module? That's ancient. IMHO its either 'proper monitoring' or COMwifi you want, IMHO anyway. Anyone quoting GSM that hasn't been asked for it I'd suggest is wary of 'anything new fangled'. Which is not entirely unfair as the Comwifi units have had their fair share of troubles when new. GSM is, in theory, 'more reliable' than COMwifi but as you say it'll cost you in SIM costs and one day, maybe not that soon, but one day, 2G will be switched off. If you're going to entertain GSM, I'd say just go all the way and get all inclusive + monitoring. And of course with GSM you won't be getting the app etc... Basically the GSM module is very old hat (its 2G only) and smells a bit to me of an installer having one kicking round the stores for years they just want to get shot of...

Again, the 9651 manual actually lays it out very nicely and explains everything. Start there and then progress to bigger UDL type panels. It's not rocket science but the two intruder alarm textbooks that apply to the UK are pretty out of date.

As above buy a scanny 9651 or similar off ebay and play with it...

Nowt as it's an obsolete 433mhz scanny wireless based panel. I can't even recommend upgrading to newer Eaton stuff because the shape of the devices has now changed and still only 1 way...

Looking back I did a quote in a brand new building that had a Gent, it was empty and silent inside, I looked briefly at the (outside of) panel with regards to connecting fire to the comms, pretty sure it was clicking away, actually!

Its an ancient panel that runs on 433Mhz, however, interference or not, it seems odd that an unused zone can alarm... I would suggest a complete factory reset and reprog, sadly

Yeabbut if you're going to start disconnecting the power to SABs you'd better be ready to isolate the tamper too

Well, if you connected hold off via a NC relay, you could still isolate bell tamper return...

Risco are a decent company - a proper security company unlike, say, Yale, so as long as you have picked a decent installer you should be fine. Although people can and do have 'gaps', I would be a bit wary of the person that is available tomorrow! Remember the upside of a decent system is that you have to live with it for the next 15-20 years!

Ricochet and Connect are effectively 'add ons' to the Premier (although, as before, without confusing the issue I believe you can now use Ricochet with any panel via a universal receiver, but anyway) As long as the installer is not quoting for a non Premier panel you'll be fine.

And as above, if you're getting someone else in to fit Risco, it's less of an issue, not bad kit per-se just seems to be known to have a few pitfalls that would be worse if you were DIYing it.

Agreed although ironically on remote control the Vanderbilt is the ultimate 'come back another day' panel, I know of no other system where you can isolate, for example, individual keypad tampers remotely...

Hi there, I think the consensus here is to avoid Risco. Sure, it has its fans but they are dedicated installers. It doesn't sound like something to troubleshoot without issues. Just for clarity, I used to LOVE Risco in the old days, but most here think that panel-wise the wheels really have come off the last few years. Texecom Ricochet is the name of the wireless system that Premier panels use, so any Ricochet based system IS 'Premier'.* (*There was talk of a universal, standalone reciever system to add to non-texe panels, not sure if it exists, and probably better to ignore this statement or it might cause confusion!) However, there ARE plenty of other brands people on here might recommend, are you sure you don't want to hear about them?

It depends on the situation, I agree, on a decent panel you can at least limit the strobe to say, 4 hours if it bothers you I guess. And certainly on our property any break in would almost certainly be via the rear, which you can't see until you're already in the house and past the lobby...

Yes, there would be no issue doing that, assuming the load of the bell is low enough (most budget/modern sirens would be). However, you say you have 2 bells so would highly recommend doing current calculations based on actual draw of bells / strobe and capability of the output. The strobe is primarily to warn you that there has been an activation before you go marching into the property, it's unlikely but there could still be a burglar on scene once the bell has stopped (or not started, if on a delay) especially when set to a shorter time, for example all mine are set to 10 mins unless the customer requests otherwise. So, I personally would keep it separate but up to you.