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Mark Rider

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Hello 

so have had a euro46 for last 3 years installed by my self all been fine 

then all of a sudden got faults fault is Battery fault , PSU fault , Low volts, battery critical 

 so i measure volts on psu thats 20v AC and battery is 13.4 volts so there all good 

so not sure why its gone faulty 

screen shots of UDL software attached 

got no idea where to go now 

strange thing is the UDL software isnt showing the volts or current

any help is good thanks very much 

 

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1 minute ago, Mark Rider said:

Hello 

so have had a euro46 for last 3 years installed by my self all been fine 

then all of a sudden got faults fault is Battery fault , PSU fault , Low volts, battery critical 

 so i measure volts on psu thats 20v AC and battery is 13.4 volts so there all good 

so not sure why its gone faulty 

screen shots of UDL software attached 

got no idea where to go now 

strange thing is the UDL software isnt showing the volts or current

any help is good thanks very much 

 

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What makes you think just because volts ok battery is good , your forgetting something.....

 

Average battery life is done

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Just now, Mark Rider said:

as i have checked the battery. drop test etc powers other stuff ok as well

for got to add the control panel also says the psu power is below 10.38volts 

Cool your ok then , don't need a PSU don't need a battery 

 

Sorted 

As said 3 years is enough for battery in my.opinion , perhaps it's damaged your psu

 

I doubt you have a battery drop tester for this type ?

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Just now, Mark Rider said:

??? how can it be ok then if it has a fault because of low power ?

Was being sarcastic..... Just forum banter dude , your still ignoring the battery has been running for charging for three years and it's the first thing to swap out , but you say you measure good voltage from PSU but panel reports low voltage 

 

I would say your testing things wrong somehow but it's all hear say as we can't see what you do 

 

Change battery , failing that psu

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ok lol

well im a High Voltage vehicle tech so know how to measure current and voltage so thats not a problem. 

So do you know what voltage should be coming out the PSU ? 

also when you disconnect the battery the alarm sounds which it didnt do before but if you turn power off it shuts down with no battery back up .

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The "black act of alarm monkeying"

 

Diagnosis with out tools-

 

Unplug & shake the battery , does it rattle like a skeleton having a wank in a biscuit tin ?

look at the current reading displayed  on the keypad is probably gonna be 1000mA + ?

remove one lead form battery is probably gonna be 450mA

it may well be warm & sooty in the endstation

pull the battery fuse on the pcb you'll probably get 100 Battery Fuse failed or similar on the display in day mode (proves the fuse is good)

 

When you pull the mains & The system just dies

Battery fuse

Battery 

Or endstation pcb

 

Pull a known good battery in & repeat

 

Diagnosis with a multimeter-

 

A battery has a float charge of less than 100mA an uncharged battery say 1000mA, measure the current you should be able to watch it fall to float charge, 

 

Transformer kicks out 20vac, 

The battery leads will either measure nowt or around 14vdc depending on product with no battery fitted

 

Proper alarm co.

 

will have a battery tester & current reading of the system in day & alarm 😉

 

 

Mr😀 Veritas God

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well i have a battery tester and have tested it like i said and its ok 

 No wonder people dont use professionals as there all as arrogant as you.

as i said i have all the tools just wanted some advice as not fully up to speed on alarms 

as i work on 800v Porsche Taycans

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Yeah I've changed a tyre on a xj220 too. 

However on the euro have you checked the fuse on the battery. It does look like a board issue though. Bear in mind the euro does sense battery volts and demand and adjusts charging accordingly 

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4 hours ago, Mark Rider said:

well i have a battery tester and have tested it like i said and its ok 

 No wonder people dont use professionals as there all as arrogant as you.

as i said i have all the tools just wanted some advice as not fully up to speed on alarms 

as i work on 800v Porsche Taycans

So then you know how to fix , as no point using professionals lol

 

Anyhow what he said above is correct , you call it arrogance but it's forum banter , arrogance is your reply 

 

Follow through the detailed help from Mr H and think about what jw just said 

 

Then go back to your Porsche vehicles , while I work on some Toyota hybrids all the same to me......

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8 hours ago, Mark Rider said:

well i have a battery tester and have tested it like i said and its ok

 

act ?

 

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8 hours ago, Mark Rider said:

No wonder people dont use professionals as there all as arrogant as you.

 

Me? I told you who to mend your alarm for nowt

 

Battery, fuse or PCB

 

8 hours ago, Mark Rider said:

800v Porsche Taycans

 

 

impressive.... however there'll be much cheaper & much less powerful than a big wagon

 

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they appear to do electric ones if you lack diesel skills 🙂

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Amps said:

How/where did you manage to download the Pyronix insite software!

They don't exactly make it hard to get dude , just like wintex etc 

 

All aimed at DIY trying to show they trade lol

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5 hours ago, Amps said:

 

So new battery fitted and still the same 

Same faults 

 Also with the power off you can't do a start with just the battery doesn't seem to do anything at all. 

 So looks like it's the panel 

 

So question the V10 is the layout much the same on the panel ? 

 

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14 minutes ago, Mark Rider said:

 

 So looks like it's the panel 

 

So question the V10 is the layout much the same on the panel ? 

 

Or battery which damaged the panel or something else that did it 

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1 hour ago, Mark Rider said:

 Also with the power off you can't do a start with just the battery doesn't seem to do anything at all. 

 So looks like it's the panel 

 

IIRC needs mains to start,

 

Power it down

Remove the modem connection,

Rainbow ribbon if fitted

bell +

Speaker+

Zem +

Aux + on both tiers of the pcb terminals

 

Check all the pcb fuses with DVM on buzz (replace any blown one with correct value)

 

Restart with just the RKP on it, if won't change onto the battery its deffo shagged

 

1 hour ago, Mark Rider said:

So question the V10 is the layout much the same on the panel ? 

 

 

think its the same pcb, but but minor sorfware changes which includes app support ?

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2 hours ago, MrHappy said:

 

IIRC needs mains to start,

 

Power it down

Remove the modem connection,

Rainbow ribbon if fitted

bell +

Speaker+

Zem +

Aux + on both tiers of the pcb terminals

 

Check all the pcb fuses with DVM on buzz (replace any blown one with correct value)

 

Restart with just the RKP on it, if won't change onto the battery its deffo shagged

 

 

think its the same pcb, but but minor sorfware changes which includes app support ?

Ok will do see what happens thanks 😊 I let you know 

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12 minutes ago, Amps said:

Thought you had to be a registered installer? 

Anyone register with some companies just blag it 

 

Even with hikvision you can get away with it and blag it 

 

 

But you couldn't get hkc software without being registered the software itself keeps tabs on you , and they know when you download it and login 

 

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4 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Anyone register with some companies just blag it 

 

Even with hikvision you can get away with it and blag it 

 

 

But you couldn't get hkc software without being registered the software itself keeps tabs on you , and they know when you download it and login 

 

Ok didn't realise it was that easy.

You think the software always linked to a email address? Just wondering how companies stop rouge engineers logging in after they have left the company. 

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1 hour ago, Amps said:

Ok didn't realise it was that easy.

You think the software always linked to a email address? Just wondering how companies stop rouge engineers logging in after they have left the company. 

Don't know , but now are you not talking about logging into panel?

 

As for software you can create more users and delete when they leave 

 

Not sure how others work but seems to work for hkc 

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