Yassine Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Hi All, I did read many post on the forum before starting this one so please excuse me im repeating someone else question. Im linking Siren Texecom Odyssey E1 With Wolfguard GSM Alarm I don't know if they work properly Could someone tell me if it's possible to pair this siren with this control panel and what links I have to follow Any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 58 minutes ago, Yassine said: Hi All, I did read many post on the forum before starting this one so please excuse me im repeating someone else question. Im linking Siren Texecom Odyssey E1 With Wolfguard GSM Alarm I don't know if they work properly Could someone tell me if it's possible to pair this siren with this control panel and what links I have to follow Any help would be appreciated. Unlikely anyone uses that alarm Anymore pictures or a link to the installation manual ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Never heard of a wolfguard doesnt look like it has a tamper return, the bell needs a negative trigger that I would guess you can get from N/O on the panel; and adding OV to common Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Assuming that zone on the back is programmable it might work , you also have an onboard relay which could be used for a bell trigger depends on what it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassine Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Unlikely anyone uses that alarm Anymore pictures or a link to the installation manual ? The Manual of Odyssey 1Ehttp://www.moretonalarms.com/pdf_engineer_manuals/Odyssey.pdf The Manual of Wolfguard GSM Alarm (this is different model but almost the wired zone are the same) http://www.wolf-guard.com/app/file/8 57 minutes ago, PeterJames said: Never heard of a wolfguard doesnt look like it has a tamper return, the bell needs a negative trigger that I would guess you can get from N/O on the panel; and adding OV to common I tried but nothing happened except the light of the siren is green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Yassine said: I tried but nothing happened except the light of the siren is green The siren need permanent 12v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassine Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, PeterJames said: The siren need permanent 12v Do you mean 12v from control panel is insufficient ? because Last year I linked with wired siren from different brand with 12 v from control panel of this gsm alarm and it is working great but with Odyssey 1E I don't know how or where I am wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I would guess, 12v and GND on CPU to 12v and 0v on bell, put a link from GND on CPU to COM then wire N/O to B on Bell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, Yassine said: The Manual of Odyssey 1Ehttp://www.moretonalarms.com/pdf_engineer_manuals/Odyssey.pdf The Manual of Wolfguard GSM Alarm (this is different model but almost the wired zone are the same) http://www.wolf-guard.com/app/file/8 I tried but nothing happened except the light of the siren is green Seems as though you can't programme as above So you need to use 0v +12v Then the relay for the bell trigger , which drops bell trigger to 0v when siren goes The tamper could be used on a zone in defence mode , look at page 11 , although not a tamper it can act as a 24hr armed zone , but you would have to mess around to make it work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Yassine said: Do you mean 12v from control panel is insufficient ? because Last year I linked with wired siren from different brand with 12 v from control panel of this gsm alarm and it is working great but with Odyssey 1E I don't know how or where I am wrong working great vs how things should work are completely different. What you mean is you thought it worked but in reality it didnt worst case you thought it did and relied on it and it didnt please all that read this use a system but know its limits, if you need to know stuff dont use a free one Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassine Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 14 hours ago, al-yeti said: Seems as though you can't programme as above So you need to use 0v +12v Then the relay for the bell trigger , which drops bell trigger to 0v when siren goes The tamper could be used on a zone in defence mode , look at page 11 , although not a tamper it can act as a 24hr armed zone , but you would have to mess around to make it work I'm lost in the linking The control panel wired ports: *) NO - Relay port (normal open). It will be triggered when the system is alarming. *) COM - GND port of relay *) NC - Relay port (normal close). It will be triggered when the system is alarming. *) 12V - Positive end of 12V output *) Zone2 - Wired sensor 2: support both NO and NC *) GND - GND *) Zone 1 - Wired sensor 1: support both NO and NC *) GND - GND *) There is audio jack for siren S+ S- Siren Control panel 12v ----------------------------> 12V 0V ------------------------------> GND Bell ----------------------------> ? STRB ------------------------> ? what I have to link for bell and STRB ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Yassine said: I'm lost in the linking The control panel wired ports: *) NO - Relay port (normal open). It will be triggered when the system is alarming. *) COM - GND port of relay *) NC - Relay port (normal close). It will be triggered when the system is alarming. *) 12V - Positive end of 12V output *) Zone2 - Wired sensor 2: support both NO and NC *) GND - GND *) Zone 1 - Wired sensor 1: support both NO and NC *) GND - GND *) There is audio jack for siren S+ S- Siren Control panel 12v ----------------------------> 12V 0V ------------------------------> GND Bell ----------------------------> ? STRB ------------------------> ? what I have to link for bell and STRB ? Bell and strobe would be tied together into the normally open side of the relay , then common relay to 0v , I think lol The tamper you need to for now ground it in the bell if it allows so it ignores it , I think lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Common on the control panel (CPU) links to ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassine Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, al-yeti said: Bell and strobe would be tied together into the normally open side of the relay , then common relay to 0v , I think lol The tamper you need to for now ground it in the bell if it allows so it ignores it , I think lol 1 hour ago, PeterJames said: Common on the control panel (CPU) links to ground I don't need TMP for now I linked Siren Control panel 12v ----------------------------> 12V 0V ------------------------------> GND AND COM Bell ----------------------------> NO STRB ------------------------> NO Nothing happened am I wrong in the linking ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Maybe the panel relay is knackered or the bell its hard to say without looking if yo move the wire frome N/O to common does the bell sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Yassine said: I don't need TMP for now I linked Siren Control panel 12v ----------------------------> 12V 0V ------------------------------> GND AND COM Bell ----------------------------> NO STRB ------------------------> NO Nothing happened am I wrong in the linking ? Nothing happens when you do what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassine Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, PeterJames said: Maybe the panel relay is knackered or the bell its hard to say without looking if yo move the wire frome N/O to common does the bell sound? Nothing happened 3 hours ago, al-yeti said: Nothing happens when you do what? when I triger the siren from control panel or when PIR triger I think I have to use the Siren+ and siren- I tried Siren Control panel 12v ----------------------------> 12V 0V ------------------------------> GND AND COM Bell ----------------------------> NO STRB ------------------------> NO ANd Siren Control panel 12v ----------------------------> 12V 0V ------------------------------> GND AND COM Bell ----------------------------> COM STRB ------------------------> COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Yassine said: Nothing happened Siren Control panel 12v ----------------------------> 12V 0V ------------------------------> GND AND COM Bell ----------------------------> NO STRB ------------------------> NO Either the sounder doesnt work, or the panel isint outputting 12v. If you have wired 12v and gnd and the wired bell to gnd it should have sounded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, PeterJames said: Either the sounder doesnt work, or the panel isint outputting 12v. If you have wired 12v and gnd and the wired bell to gnd it should have sounded That's the first move to try make sure your bell is working But wouldn't the bell wait for the tamper to close and he's forgetting that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassine Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, PeterJames said: Either the sounder doesnt work, or the panel isint outputting 12v. If you have wired 12v and gnd and the wired bell to gnd it should have sounded I'm trying now with Power Supply 12V DC 12v ----------------------------> 12V+ 0V ------------------------------> - and from control panel I wired Siren Control panel Bell ----------------------------> GND STRB ------------------------> GND nothing happened when I trigger the siren from control panel or PIR trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yassine said: I'm trying now with Power Supply 12V DC 12v ----------------------------> 12V+ 0V ------------------------------> - and from control panel I wired Siren Control panel Bell ----------------------------> GND STRB ------------------------> GND nothing happened when I trigger the siren from control panel or PIR trigger Where did you get bell? Is bell tamper closed? Does bell have jumpers you can take picture of Actually I see the jumpers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassine Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Where did you get bell? Is bell tamper closed? Does bell have jumpers you can take picture of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) Turn battery on And put on SCB mode Edited July 5, 2020 by al-yeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassine Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Turn battery on Turned on but still the same When I wire the siren with 12v and 0V from control panel or from Power Supply 12V DC it make sound and the green light flashing and than stop wait for trigger from control panel I tested with mini siren that is work with audio jack (Siren+ , Siren -) it is working normally when there is trigger something in the linking I have did from control panel to siren is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 They have an engineer hold off mode and will not be full operation with the lid open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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