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1 minute ago, james.wilson said:

You want to screw them not stick. Alse re wedge etc there are thousands of window profile so it's either additional rf sensors or wired. As above I'd use a flush contact(s) but ob my own windows I only use the shock element

You don't use magnets ???

 

or no lunatic kids like mine who leave windows open day and night 

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I don't, but I will put them on when I upgrade the heating to room thermostats. I'm currently only using trv and the alarm to set the heating mode, ie comfort(disarmed) , night (part set) or economy (armed) 

I will shut off rads based on window and door contacts


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22 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

I don't, but I will put them on when I upgrade the heating to room thermostats. I'm currently only using trv and the alarm to set the heating mode, ie comfort(disarmed) , night (part set) or economy (armed) 

I will shut off rads based on window and door contacts

I got mags/shocks on all windows now , althought front is contact only would have been nice if mini contacts were being distributed now 

 

Hope it doesn't have some lunatic battery 

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36 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

I got mags/shocks on all windows now , althought front is contact only would have been nice if mini contacts were being distributed now 

 

Hope it doesn't have some lunatic battery 

Its not using a cr123 but then it is little

new keypad is priority, but the contact will be close, in white brown and grey

 

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Well I have deceided to flog on this Yale Kit IA220, thanks to being misadvised several months ago I have ended up with a load of accessories that should work but dont :( they are for Easyfit system ...still 866

but not compatible ...

 

 

anyway I am going to flog it all on ebay and get a decent one

 

I initially looked at Pyronix and Texecom

I am pretty sure the Texecom system would work out cheaper ...perhaps.

 

what do you guys think 

 

I need a system that 

** Comes with Wired Bellbox (the only wired kit i need)

** Comes  Wireless Panic Button
**Comes with a dialer or some way of notification

 

then the standard kit i need is 
5 x Wireless PIR
4 x Wireless Contacts

 

Any Suggestions for me welcomed 

 

 

 

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Well all the Texecom Premier stuff is hybrid so supports wired and wireless anything, if that helps.

I would have thought Pyronix would be cheaper but I suppose it's depends if you get what you want from a Texe kit.

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Well i might be 

If you know where to go ;) 

 

I was thinking this kit here

https://www.coditech.co.uk/texecom-ricochet-premier-elite-64w-wireless-alarm-kit-kit-0002-4431-p.asp?gclid=Cj0KCQiAiZPvBRDZARIsAORkq7fiVZEgSGp7__X-3sXmrUfZgFfWMMsAEbGvTOoJ7U_nTJnfDjaCopgaAqMxEALw_wcB

 

adding 

 

2 x https://www.coditech.co.uk/texecom-ricochet-premier-elite-premier-wireless-pw-w-pet-immune-pir-4424-p.asp

3 x https://www.coditech.co.uk/texecom-ricochet-micro-door-contact-w-white-4405-p.asp

1 x https://www.alertelectrical.com/texecom-ricochet-dp-w-personal-panic-attack-push-button-gbg-0001.html

 

you are right it does start racking up :(

I am hoping this kit will have an inbuild dialer or app or something for alerts ...not much info

also confused about the sounder ...its Wireless although some sites suggest it can be wired by 

arsing about with a "22k resistor" or something

 

Its never easy !

 

Would pyronix save me £££?

 

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39 minutes ago, EDinMK said:

you are right it does start racking up :(

For less than the cost of a mobile phone you are protecting your most valuable asset!

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Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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not sure what phones u have Norman ...but I am 52

not into these smart jobbies ...just get a nice cheapy that wont break my heart if i drop it off a ladder !

 

So you think the above is "ok" on price ? or do u think i woul dbe better with a Pyronix ...

not sure exactly how the alerts work on both of them ...doesnt look like the old "diallers" they used to have i am guessing?

 

Also I dont want to be lumbered with a wireless box ...I looked about and someone said they do one that can be "wired" as a workaround

why dont they bloody still STOCK wired boxes ..I mean how hard can it be to have some terminals 

 

Where this box is going i dont want to be arsing about ...I mean tamper wont be necessary as you would need to 

Spidermans climbing coach to get to it !

 

 

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On the average UK house (what is it, 250k now?) I have literally no idea why anyone would think anything under a grand was 'too dear'.

As norm says, it's a fraction of the house value and peanuts compared to all the frivolous (and ironically desirable to burglar) stuff most

people hapilly fritter their hard earned cash on. Most, not all, agreed, for various reasons.


So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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17 hours ago, EDinMK said:

not sure what phones u have Norman ...but I am 52

I've not had a personal phone since the 90's but do have expensive 'work' phones the latest costing c£800 and I've just ordered a TV for a similar amount, have a look around your home and as most I'm sure it won't take long to tally up a fair few K.

 

The main thing I chose to protect is the family, having said that I guess the plus side of any break in would be the knowledge I'd saved a few hunred squid...


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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Just as above my alarm

2 wired sabs

Internal sounder

14 rf shocks on all windows / doors

5 wired quads

2 rf dualrec

3 rf door contacts garage and log cabin

6 external pirs on alarm (lighting and notification) 

7 external cameras 4mp

8 tb storage 

Oh and a dp3 webway

And a hkc WiFi module


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2 hours ago, datadiffusion said:

On the average UK house (what is it, 250k now?) I have literally no idea why anyone would think anything under a grand was 'too dear'.

As norm says, it's a fraction of the house value and peanuts compared to all the frivolous (and ironically desirable to burglar) stuff most

people hapilly fritter their hard earned cash on. Most, not all, agreed, for various reasons.

 

well its not the house value..its what you paid for it in the first place, which was a small mortgage 30 years ago

we dont have all that hi tech stuff and we dont have kids and so we dont plan to ...dearest thing is probably the telly

which was £400 2 years ago

 

its more for a safety thing than anything in all honesty ..if they came in here what could they take? ...the TV and the food mixer LOL

i got a few power tools in the shed ...but nothing big name and with £200 at Wickes you could replace them all with new ones 


its just burglars dont KNOW this and we just want to keep them out of the house !!! ..its the mess and upset. I mean if I am in bed and the dog starts barking

I will reach around the back of the wardrobe and bring out my old 40" Katana ...I used to collect them :)

 

So bearing in mind it will cut right through a frozen lamb leg ...its more to keep ME out of trouble as well as THEM !

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, EDinMK said:

 

well its not the house value..its what you paid for it in the first place, which was a small mortgage 30 years ago

we dont have all that hi tech stuff and we dont have kids and so we dont plan to ...dearest thing is probably the telly

which was £400 2 years ago

 

its more for a safety thing than anything in all honesty ..if they came in here what could they take? ...the TV and the food mixer LOL

i got a few power tools in the shed ...but nothing big name and with £200 at Wickes you could replace them all with new ones 


its just burglars dont KNOW this and we just want to keep them out of the house !!! ..its the mess and upset. I mean if I am in bed and the dog starts barking

I will reach around the back of the wardrobe and bring out my old 40" Katana ...I used to collect them :)

 

So bearing in mind it will cut right through a frozen lamb leg ...its more to keep ME out of trouble as well as THEM !

 

 

 

Ok so go Screwfix or b&q and get a Yale fix it yourself end of story really 

 

Your story has been done here so many times 

 

Dinner is in the dog yeah?

 

You want it for safety

You have dog

And something behind your 40" katana behind wardrobe 

 

Oh and your a light sleeper yes? So protecting yourself is easy ......

 

No offence old chap of course 

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thats what i did Al,

 

but the Yale is a Shiece of Pit!

it doesnt have a wired sounder

and it doesnt have the range of accessories 

and its not for me 

 

 

I guess i will just hunt about ....I mean there ARE bundles out there ..but when i add the accessories 

they are doubling up ...scantronic, Pyronix  etc etc

 

 

just frustrating for a DIY fitter is all 

 

Listen if i had spare cash ..ofc i would get a REAL fitter to do it for me ...

..I am not daft .....just a little

 

 

 

....well, skint

 

tx for your help, and no i am NOT a light sleeper, i could sleep through WW3

but the dogs won't...say hello to Trevor

 

 

trevor14.jpg

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Is a katana considered reasonable force now?...

 

To stop this thread from straying of the topic any more ... either option will probably do the job you want.

Engineers fit what they know to be reliable, everyone will recommend a different manufacturer so we cant choose one for you.

Your alarm is an important purchase so cost should be a lower factor in your decision. You will pay more in the long run if it's unreliable.

 

Good ratter?

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And, sadly, scum won't care if they injure or kill your dog either. Its not what they nick that is usually the most unplesant thing about a break-in, especially if you aren't in.


So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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30 minutes ago, EDinMK said:

thats what i did Al,

 

but the Yale is a Shiece of Pit!

it doesnt have a wired sounder

and it doesnt have the range of accessories 

and its not for me 

 

 

I guess i will just hunt about ....I mean there ARE bundles out there ..but when i add the accessories 

they are doubling up ...scantronic, Pyronix  etc etc

 

 

just frustrating for a DIY fitter is all 

 

Listen if i had spare cash ..ofc i would get a REAL fitter to do it for me ...

..I am not daft .....just a little

 

 

 

....well, skint

 

tx for your help, and no i am NOT a light sleeper, i could sleep through WW3

but the dogs won't...say hello to Trevor

 

 

trevor14.jpg

So then the answer is buy something good and add on as you have cash , will cost more on long run but atleast you will be better off 

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31 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

Is a katana considered reasonable force now?...

 

To stop this thread from straying of the topic any more ... either option will probably do the job you want.

Engineers fit what they know to be reliable, everyone will recommend a different manufacturer so we cant choose one for you.

Your alarm is an important purchase so cost should be a lower factor in your decision. You will pay more in the long run if it's unreliable.

 

Good ratter?

tx all. will research. 

 

rats. cats. squirrels.  my feet.  wifes ar $e

there is nothing he won't go for lol.

but I love him to bits..for some strange reason.

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2 hours ago, EDinMK said:

burglars dont KNOW this and we just want to keep them out of the house !!! ..its the mess and upset.

You may be better leaving the security and the doors unlocked....


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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5 hours ago, james.wilson said:

Just as above my alarm

2 wired sabs

Internal sounder

14 rf shocks on all windows / doors

5 wired quads

2 rf dualrec

3 rf door contacts garage and log cabin

6 external pirs on alarm (lighting and notification) 

7 external cameras 4mp

8 tb storage 

Oh and a dp3 webway

And a hkc WiFi module

 

all nicked from work...


Mr😀

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1 hour ago, EDinMK said:

just frustrating for a DIY fitter is all 

 

Listen if i had spare cash ..ofc i would get a REAL fitter to do it for me ...

 

its not really DIY kit, its not hard but its much easier if you do it for a living

 

 


Mr😀

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28 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

all nicked from work...

Single internal sounder? 

 

Master blaster? From logan.com?

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