Abacus problem help please

[Griffmaster]

Can anyone suggest what is happening here please.

 

I have an Abacus 6 installation which has recently started to give this problem.

 

On leaving the house a couple of times this week and leaving through the final exit kitchen door into my garage, I get the usual good set beeps and the system has set.

 

A couple of minutes while I have still been in the garage, the system has gone into alarm without warning.

 

On checking the log the message shows CctA 2A ExFx KITCHEN and ALARM, TRBL.

 

I am thinking maybe a faulty kitchen door contact but would have thought if contact has been unmade, I would have heard the entry warning beeps before going into alarm as I do if I open the door on entry as normal?

 

Any pointers please?

[al-yeti]

So garage has no detector?

 

Maybe sensor playing up, when did you have system service last? 

 

Requires some investigation really , seems your circuit is split , but if it's a tamper fault of some kind , while set can show as alarm from what I rember on those

[al-yeti]

 

Those panic buttons look nicely used lol, someone after you lol

[james.wilson]

how old is that?

[Griffmaster]

4 hours ago, al-yeti said:

So garage has no detector?

 

Maybe sensor playing up, when did you have system service last? 

 

Requires some investigation really , seems your circuit is split , but if it's a tamper fault of some kind , while set can show as alarm from what I rember on those

Garage does have a detector on up and over door but not used now permanently locked, can't remember when last serviced.

4 hours ago, al-yeti said:

 

Those panic buttons look nicely used lol, someone after you lol

Used as part set as cats always left in house

4 hours ago, james.wilson said:

how old is that?

Must be 20 years plus!

[firemonkey]

Could it be a bad connection in the kitchen door contact causing a tamper of some kind?

 

if there's a PIR in kitchen too, check that as might be same text 

Is there anything else in the log past that which could give any other indication? 

 

Might be showing the kitchen door contact first but what caused the activation could be an entry before it as you enter that door to stop the alarm 

[Griffmaster]

Have checked either side of the log pics shown but only shows being set 5 days prior and entry info when I unset the system 1 day after the alarm.

 

I had been away for a few days, must have re-set itself.

 

Thought about changing the flush door contact as a starter.

 

The kitchen PIR was not active as only a part-set which I use normally.

 

Same log info shown when what I described in post #1.

Edited July 5, 2017 by Griffmaster

[norman]

Are you sure you've not full set it by mistake? 

[al-yeti]

Put chime in door contact 

 

Close door 

Give contact a light tap to see if it chimes 

[datadiffusion]

With the zone splits, wasn't there a 'B' terminal in Abacus brand PIRs for a 2nd circuit (but shared tamper??), or couldn't you use a splitter box? And wasn't the split thing just glorified EOL using unpublished values?

 

Just wondering if that, as well as a ropey contact/connection could be an issue...