totoro Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'm a C&G qualified electrician but i've been doing almost exclusively alarms work for the last 5 years but with no formal training in the field. I've installed and maintained fire panels from various manufacturers, my intruder experience is mostly with Menvier, Galaxy and more recently Texecom. A 'senior' position has become available at a rival firm, i don't think i'll be applying, however the thought of doing so has made me realise something - i feel like i know nothing! I think maybe what i am looking for is some way of convincing myself and potential future employers that i do indeed know what i'm doing. What's the most widely recognised qualification in this field, does such a thing even exist? I feel like that might be a dumb question but i know very little about this side of the business. Thanks in advance guys. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Imo manufacturer training, usually done by the employer not sure if you can get it on your own. I'm sure you can if you go to them securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatthaplo Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I had similar start to my career. Started as a sparks then moved into the alarm side for a company that only did alarms (within the security industry anyway) I think the biggest thing IMHO would be to show confidence when talking about your work. Don't pretend like you know everything. You won't. But be confident in what you do know. I have only installed about 10 different panels in the last 15 years but have worked on dozens and I honestly think that because I know the terminology and the 'language' of the industry, things like FSL, EOL, ATS ratings, etc etc. (again not everything but feel like I know enough) that you could put me in front of any intruder panel with a manual and I would be able to get it up and running. Its just about knowing where the menus are for what you allready know you need to program. Of course anyone can blag it as such in an interview but to be honest I think the manufacturers training only goes so far anyway. Experience (again only in my opinion) counts for way more. I would say have a good think about the last year and the installs you have done. Are you happy with how they have been done? Have you had any callbacks on them that you can put down to your work? I would say if you are proud and confident in the work you have done over say the last year then thats a pretty good indicator to yourself of your abilities. Work Website: http://www.welch-group.co.uk/ Personal Blog: http://wyatthaplo.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I can blag Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I can blag Haha we know that... Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
totoro Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 I can blag I can usually do this with customers but i'm not sure how i'd manage in an interview situation. Can any of you think of any 'essential reading' for an alarms engineer? Something that's more general and not product specific. What are the things we should really know? I mean things like regs, system grading etc. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 loads of Btecs & city & guilds http://www.tavcom.com/training-courses/intruder-alarms/ www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Doherty Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Gerard Honey Intruder Alarms was like our holy bible in college I can usually do this with customers but i'm not sure how i'd manage in an interview situation. Can any of you think of any 'essential reading' for an alarms engineer? Something that's more general and not product specific. What are the things we should really know? I mean things like regs, system grading etc. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 It's getting pretty long in the tooth now though, I don't think it's been updated in a long time, even the one I bought was still talking about tone carrier signalling! So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Doherty Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Agreed they still build C&G framework on it but just throw the European Regs in for good measure. You want to see some of the hand outs from 2013 soundpac sounder made it in there lol we did have a proper old school teacher though, ive never heard of GPO untill that day he used to teach guys from AFA,White Group, ADT cant remember the rest shame i cant post pics via mobile It's getting pretty long in the tooth now though, I don't think it's been updated in a long time, even the one I bought was still talking about tone carrier signalling! Edited February 26, 2016 by Joe Doherty Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/39792-engineer-for-5-years-trying-to-build-a-solid-knowledge-base/#findComment-441594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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