al-yeti Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If companies advertise they are insurance approved , it means all there installs should meet the requirements of having a certificate , urn or not, so a piece of paper to certify every install shouldn't matter I assume inspectors can select any install to check if they wanted ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Inspectors can choose, but they are often given excuses "...can't see that one today, they are on holiday.." and are often guided to the ones the installer wants them to see..without them realising it of course. I'll ask again "...Could someone indicate how and when the customer actually uses this URN, since at one time it was only of use to the installer..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'll ask again "...Could someone indicate how and when the customer actually uses this URN, since at one time it was only of use to the installer..." Alarm goes off, signalling device send message to ARC, ARC then pass the URN to the Police, no address or anything just the URN But going of your posts above, i think you have some knowledge and are not letting on. Enlighten me... Age bracket 18-30, 30-40, 40-50 or 50+ Motorbike enthusiast ? Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo66 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 to be honest I've always thought Charlie was an old member under a different guise. Jason, in the eyes of NSI you must certificate all your installations. add the cost of the cert onto the job otherwise it comes off your bottom line straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 As nova, urn - unique reference number No urn = unable to pass to police Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 "...to be honest I've always thought Charlie was an old member under a different guise..." Why on earth would you think that..or better..What on earth gives you that impression? "..Alarm goes off, signalling device send message to ARC, ARC then pass the URN to the Police, no address or anything just the URN.." And the customer pays fifty two quid (or thereabouts) so that the police can know his/her address..the customer never uses a URN, never has, wouldn't know one if it hit him/her on the head and at the most it's no more than 6 digits if that... A total rip off...at one time there was no charge whatsoever.. "..But going of your posts above, i think you have some knowledge and are not letting on.." Verry...Ve..rr.rr..yy..limited knowledge I'm afraid, that's why I'm here..to learn off experts like yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The payment is for the administration process, it covers a plethora of things. http://www.securedbydesign.com/security-systems/Security-Systems-Policy-2015.pdf Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Come on Norman ! I know you better than that, I am not even going into my usual 'define plethora' mode because you know and I know that it does not. It's a URN and assuming that you pass that cost directly from the customer to the police then they are making a fortune out of a few letters/numbers flicked out of a computer with a press of the 'return' button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo66 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 to be honest I think it's cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Come on Norman ! I know you better than that, I am not even going into my usual 'define plethora' mode because you know and I know that it does not. It's a URN and assuming that you pass that cost directly from the customer to the police then they are making a fortune out of a few letters/numbers flicked out of a computer with a press of the 'return' button. No, no you don't, and I also think it's cheap, bearing in mind professional co's do not mark this up, it's often paid direct by the customer to the local force, why should the public pay for the police time for admin alarms? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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