norman Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 "with all parameters accessable and controlled via the App" Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 future will be 2 wire loop with fire intruder cctv all on same loop controlled by a front end graph for commercial anyway,wireless and phone apps will be the norm for domestic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'd put money your share tip is still 24p or 40% ish down future will be 2 wire loop with fire intruder cctv all on same loop controlled by a front end graph for commercial anyway,wireless and phone apps will be the norm for domestic too dear, std don't allow, I reckon the most domestic will remain cheap 9448's or cheap to fit radio systems Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 too dear, its happening,granted a bms type version of separate systems into one front end but tech moves fast wont be long before one loop fits all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 its happening, thought ADEMCO USA did combined fire & intruder panels ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 thought ADEMCO USA did combined fire & intruder panels ? they do but im talking intelligent front end graph system combining all systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 they do but im talking intelligent front end graph system combining all systems long time before it becomes mass market, Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 long time before it becomes mass market, that bits out now,the one loop fits all may be a while but can see it happening im no software guru but id imagine the loop voltage will power all devices with the data to one panel or and front end pc wherever that may be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichL Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 "with all parameters accessable and controlled via the App" I deliberately didnt use the word app! But I know what you mean. But just because install may be easier doesnt mean the systems no longer need installers. Wireless rollout will happen but that fact on its own is largely irrelevant because at the same time I expect the tech gulf to widen between the very low end and the medium (grade 2 if you like) systems. So end users will still need us, probably even more so than now. Look at the Enforcer app, companies can disconnect users who dont pay the annual fee. As a business model its not too dissimilar to monitored alarms, just different tech. Also interesting to me is the fact that Castle charge for the custom plastic face plate (Enforcer) where others print direct onto the standard plastic cases for free. Excellent business thinking, more should do the same. your share tip is still 24p or 40% ish down Patience, Mr H, Patience. Efficacy is not yet proven. Quote Originally said by Charles Babbage On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 "...why eol being phased out? or you having a laugh?..." I didn't say that it was, merely that there was some talk about it a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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