ibruceuk Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hi, I have a Galaxy Dimension with 5 groups and external bells etc. I have a 1 minute bell delay (mainly to prevent annoying neighbours when wife/kids ignore the alarm and wander into the kitchen before turning it off etc. However I want an internal sounder to activate immediately. I can manage this by setting an output as INTRUDER but my problem comes when the system needs disarming following such an activation. The internal sounder will only stop once the system is reset and not just when it is disarmed. Certain users (mother in law, parents, kids) don't have the required user level to be able to reset and so can't stop the internal sounder. Is there another output type I am missing that isn't subject to the 'bell delay' but in all other ways operates as a bell output? I tried assigning set groups which kind of works but all 5 groups then need to be set for the sounder to operate and there are occasions such as evening when only 3 groups are set. Incidentally I do have Force restore (51.56) set to Unset/Unconfirm but it doesn't stop the intruder output when the system is unset, as I said it only stops the output when the system is reset. Hopefully I've made sense with the above. Thanks, Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 What about intruder set to pulse rather than latch Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I assume it's a sounder triggered off an output? A speaker driven from the speaker terminals should sound immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 As above speaker best option But perhaps have perimeter protection then set the kitchen to entry as that where you say they walk in I have a dimension (yep havnt chucked it out for a hkc ....yet) Have a room in between which starts timer on part set and perimeter protection Kids have there own code which only deactivates internals Lots of ways I guess I don't get it though why wouldn't the sounder stop ???????? I often open the back door in error when the cat goes nuts and sounder stops in disarm My cat is nuts side point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I assume it's a sounder triggered off an output? A speaker driven from the speaker terminals should sound immediately. Not if it has bell delay i dont think. It will be silent on bell and horn outputs. BUt if you used group mode you could program it as intruder but to only work when that relevant area is set. Id still either go for 2 outputs, program one as intruder on a 10 second pulse. And the other as E/E horn. But you wont be able to use a speaker, it will need to be a hi lo sounder Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Not if it has bell delay i dont think. You may well be right. Galaxy is not my choice of panel, this task on a Premier easily done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) put bell delay to 0 link bell output to link A set link A as timer (for your bell delay) set link A destination (latch or reflex timer) to another output for your bell. You would need to play around with the modifier for link timer to get it to do what you want. But if you have a Gal with 5 groups, then setting up links should be easy. Edited February 21, 2015 by Nova-Security Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 put bell delay to 0 link bell output to link A set link A as timer (for your bell delay) set link A destination (latch or reflex timer) to another output for your bell. You would need to play around with the modifier for link timer to get it to do what you want. But if you have a Gal with 5 groups, then setting up links should be easy. Hard core explanation but will the Op be able? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 he programmed 5 groups so id guess yes Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibruceuk Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Thanks for the input guys. You'd think something seemingly so simple would be straightforward on a panel. I can imagine many situations where an instant internal but delayed bell would be the order of the day! I think Links is the way to go, thanks for that gem. It would be a reflex timer that would then delay the bell output, now just to see whether or not it is 'cancelled' if the system is disarmed before the timer expires (I have a feeling it won't be ) Another thought I came up with is to have another group with no zones in it but using setting logic is set whenever any other combination is set and then use that group to enable the intruder output... If links doesn't work I'll give that one a go. Alternatively I could just get rid of the delay and put a MasterBlaster in the kitchen.... I imagine they'd only make that mistake once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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