jumpdyke Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hi I am a DIY installer but have reasonable knowledge of my system. I have just finished converting the second part of my barn. (Funds finally allowed). I have star wired back to a hub all sensors required in new section, including fire alarms. In my current part that I live in, I have a Texecom 24 with one zone expander. My issue is I only have 1 zone left on current system and another zone expander, which I believe is my limit will not surfice my needs. Am I best to swap the texe 24 for a 48, 88, or is there an easier way. Also my current control panel is located about 3m from my new hub. What is easiest way to wire up new section without running all feeds from new conversion to current control panel. Many thanks in anticipation. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Have you considered how much current the system is drawing? It sounds like you may need a Premier 48 with a PSU200XP. You should have roughly no more than 500mA standby current for each PSU with a 7Ah battery installed. Wiring at current location can be terminated to the expanders "hubs" one data wire taken to the control panel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serg Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Normally Texe Prem 24 is up to 24 zones so your existing panel plus expander makes 16 and your still able connect 2 more 8XPs. Buy PSU with case and 2x 8XPs to fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Normally Texe Prem 24 is up to 24 zones so your existing panel plus expander makes 16 and your still able connect 2 more 8XPs.Nope, your maths is wrong there. 24 can take 8 on panel plus 2x8XPs making 24 Zones Total. A 48 can take 8 on panel plus 4x8XP's making 40 Zones Total the other 8 are mapped from keypad zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serg Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Oh, difficult day made me wrong, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpdyke Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Thanks for your help, so basically I need to replace the 24 with a 48. The worrying part is completely reprogramming the new system as I am unsure without checking every detector how my 24 was installed. Is there a way of sucking the settings out of the 24? possibly with a comIP and pushing them into the new system? Just a thought as I may add a comIP anyway. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Do you have the engineer code to the current system? www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatthaplo Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Thanks for your help, so basically I need to replace the 24 with a 48. The worrying part is completely reprogramming the new system as I am unsure without checking every detector how my 24 was installed. Is there a way of sucking the settings out of the 24? possibly with a comIP and pushing them into the new system? Just a thought as I may add a comIP anyway. Chris It would seem so. I believe that you can transfer the programming with the wintex software but only if it is a premier elite range 24 to a premier elite range 48. If it is a standard Premier 24 then that has different software to the premier 48 and is non transferrable. Work Website: http://www.welch-group.co.uk/ Personal Blog: http://wyatthaplo.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpdyke Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Once again, many thanks for your help. Yes, I do have the engineer code. How would I tell if it is am elite or standard? Also is it hard to programme the new control panel from the wintex software, to me it seems simpler than on the control panel?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Once again, many thanks for your help. Yes, I do have the engineer code. How would I tell if it is am elite or standard? Also is it hard to programme the new control panel from the wintex software, to me it seems simpler than on the control panel?? If you have the engineer code you can see the programming or if you prefer you can pull into Wintex via a serial cable. How I would tell the difference between the 2 is the power supply, not sure if you can get the keypad to tell you. There are people here who use these panels who will probably have a better way. The control panel is one of the simplest to program on the market, either via the keypad or via Wintex. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 From day mode press menu then 4, it will tell you what software and if elite The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 How timely. Looked at a potential takeover yesterday, 2 office units knocked into one some time ago, I want to add unit 2 which is currently a Veritas, but installed nicely enough with DTs, as a node to the Premier next door, which ironically needs some work detector wise, then add Webway. Pressed menu 4 and got given Premier 48, V8.00 Is this not Elite I guess? It was only a driveby visit and I'll pop back at some point, but not good is it? However, assume I can just get a 48 kit and re-use one 'old' LCD Prox RKP? So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Non Elite V8. Ok as long as you dont need PD6662 The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Damn! Thanks though! So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Non Elite V8. Ok as long as you dont need PD6662 Which PD6662? if 2004 then fine, if 2010 then not. amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 If im combining two units it will have to be the latest... So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Thats what I meant 2010 The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Thats what I meant 2010 If im combining two units it will have to be the latest... Why? Is there an existing URN in place for the first unit, if so surely it is still one property and the extension of the system is just that. amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 and the extension of the system is just that. Agreed. I wouldn't be bringing it up to 2010 in this sinario www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yes, didnt we have this discussion the other day though, I.e the existing will technically be for the other address? So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 But if it is two units being knocked into one how can it have a different address? Just use the one the URN has amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Ok Ill have a think about it, I guess as far was wintex and webway go on that system, no issues there? Usual expander, I.e 8xp or something else? So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMealing Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Ok Ill have a think about it, I guess as far was wintex and webway go on that system, no issues there? Usual expander, I.e 8xp or something else? Yep same expanders, i would flash the panel up to the last release of the Premier firmware which was 9 something, i can send it to you if you want, i cannot remember which version of 8 the webway was fully compatible with. amealing@texe.com Head of Industry Affairs Visit Our Website Texecom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yep same expanders, i would flash the panel up to the last release of the Premier firmware which was 9 something, i can send it to you if you want, i cannot remember which version of 8 the webway was fully compatible with. Any joy with v10 and webway not getting along? www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yep same expanders, i would flash the panel up to the last release of the Premier firmware which was 9 something, i can send it to you if you want, i cannot remember which version of 8 the webway was fully compatible with. Just got a new CD with a 12w, would it be on there as it seems to be all models? Ta for your help So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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