What is toot?

carp, in public

lol..

nowt wrong with the optima IMO

cheap yes, carp no.

Yes its not as good as dearer panels but for £25 crackin value if you ask me. Shame it isnt graded or we would use them. used to use em BS days

thousands out there.

Agreed, working well too. From our 2 sides, low callout rate (very low) to actual panel issues, and low return rates on the sales side. Compared to other supposedly 'respected' brands,

Agreed, working well too. From our 2 sides, low callout rate (very low) to actual panel issues, and low return rates on the sales side. Compared to other supposedly 'respected' brands,

ADE was a very good stable products backin the day, we had optima +2's on digi's way back when....

i feel if we are honest with ourselves while we may not like the idea of them as they are cheap, they do the job and are more reliable than other things we use.

never used the bigger things, but we did have a few karizmas in

I'd agree they had some good ideas, eg straight pcb swap, remote keypad at less than a fiver(!) & zillions out there.

Also agree they had a place in market for cheap installs where overkill losses jobs. but would only accept ok (in them days) for cheap residential, not commercial.

these days no point. think any panel or eng that cant do fsl, is diy let alone the other requirements..