arfur mo Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 i'm interested at the mention of having the 'spec in the panel', i discussed about doing this in here a few years back, tbh it was the way it has always done in the past. but many did a high horse routine and condemnation of the fire hazard issue (like i invented the idea ). Chubbs started to have a plastic sleeve stuck to the end station, which would then split from sevice dockets being rammed in and the glue died over time. ended up looking real tatty mess, but i had thought this was the old NACOSS requirements? personally, i've never liked the idea of the spec being so easily obtained and read by those who should not be, or more often lost. so the client gets their copy to put with the manual and i work mainly by email so they have an electronic copy to - and no extra postage . if you do have it in the panel and suffer a lightning strike or a duff trany, its a fair point to say there is a possible risk being taken (how ever small), i've not experienced it but then on direct to bell/siren lightning strikes you normally end up with the panels guts and all contained within, being turned very efficiently into black powder . Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oxo Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Seen plenty lightening strikes the largest at the Sultan Of Brunei`s "The Aivery" took out 3 alarms and then the new DVD players (was a few yrs back when they were fortunes) about 15 of them. Whats all this black powder stuff? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 It was a requirement to remove any paper etc from inside the panel. You could use a fireproof envelope or have the docs outside the panel etc. We still do this, but im not sure its a still a requirement. If i recall it was something to do with CE? not sure though securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oxo Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yeah,I was told it was a requirement to remove paper from inside the panel but the inspector never mentioned it on inspections. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 some of the panels i've seen after a fire, very hard to know if it was a real lightning strike or the smouldering fag butts that caused it . Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-G Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I'm amazed what some companies put inside panels ..... specs, quotation, job sheets, log books. It's a squeeze to get the battery in sometimes. . . . PM me for access to the SSAIB members discussion area. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 We dont put any paper in panel, save stickers on lid with zones, ohms V A, oh & part sets Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBrad Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 We don't either,pretty much every job now has it's own lockable document box. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 We don't either,pretty much every job now has it's own lockable document box. the previous end station case? Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBrad Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 the previous end station case? Arfur Haha no literally a cabinet with a key on the front to lock the paperwork away. Although i have seen that done many a time. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29364-paperwork-in-control-panels/#findComment-245786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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