Collectors Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Hi all, I have a remote garage with no power supply & wanted a warning of any break in. Now i have a large car battery & a cheap mobile phone device that will ring a number upon being triggered with a 12 volt +-, & i thought i might be able to just use a PIR/Microwave & use this to trigger the mobile phone to ring me. But now realize that the alarm pair terminals on the PIR/Microwave is not a relay of sorts & wont work. Any suggestions on a cheap way to do this without using a panel ???????. (Need the PIR/Microwave because of conditions) Thanks Chris. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 do you need a normally open or normally closed relay device? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collectors Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share Posted June 19, 2010 Thanks for getting back. Would need a normally open relay & when the PIR is activated the relay would energise & then have closed contacts to tell the mobile phone to ring out. On the mobile unit, the 2 terminals on the left are a 12V +- supply, & the terminals on the right are a 12v +- trigger. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 How far away is the garage from your home? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Thanks for getting back. Would need a normally open relay & when the PIR is activated the relay would energise & then have closed contacts to tell the mobile phone to ring out. On the mobile unit, the 2 terminals on the left are a 12V +- supply, & the terminals on the right are a 12v +- trigger. WTF is that lash up? Can you not get power out to the garage? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oxo Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Pop another "Handy little relay" in the equation and bingo the PIR becomes N/O Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 your car battery 60Ah or so at a guess would need regular charging and be an unreliable power source. best to look for a branded wireless solution. What control panel do you have in the house, how far away is the shed, what is your budget? Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 You can get pir's with a normally open or Form C relay, ill find one if your stuck. Alternativly as oxo states just add another relay to invert. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpotter Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 your car battery 60Ah or so at a guess would need regular charging and be an unreliable power source. best to look for a branded wireless solution. What control panel do you have in the house, how far away is the shed, what is your budget? Agreed (hence #4). Was thinking scanny 762 & eg 714 or 703 etc. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collectors Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share Posted June 19, 2010 Hi guys, might not of included enough info. Battery is a 120ah leisure type & the garage is only being used for about 6 months with no electric in the area at all. I should get about a month out of the battery on a full charge with the few milliamp's being used. All i need is the alarm contacts in the pir to operate a relay of sorts. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/29129-local-pir-to-trip-a-mobile-phone/#findComment-242440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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