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I don't fit Ion however...
This seems like "Siren battery" so most likely an external siren.
Most wireless systems do not alert when they are armed, some panels you can silence these beeps for a short period of time (disarming procedure).
Ideally you wouldn't let the system battery get to this point. When was the system last serviced?
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I didn't know iron oxide was so expensive...
If I leave old metal panels out in the rain do they go up in value?
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Depends, I have known panel to sink negative and retrigger the hold off.
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1 minute ago, Tab said:
but worried if I shut it down, the outside bell will sound? Does the Outside bell have internal batteries?
That is correct.
With a fully operational system if you power down the inside the siren will activate.
Fully decommissioning a system usually involves ladders and earplugs.
They are designed that way so a burglar can't disable them easily from the inside.
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Not the best but not awful if you bin off all the stuff they did fitting the Dualcom.
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Issue is when the company goes bust...
If you have a service contract you wouldn't make e-waste anyway, your installer would support it or you move to another supported installer.
It's stuff that's fitted then not looked at until there is a fault that causes e-waste issue anyway. Installers aren't necessarily to blame.
It also can be used to make sure all service contract payments are complete before handing over to another company.
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Not the best audio but examples of how poor "pro-sumer" door bell and camera systems can be, despite what the manufacturer claims.
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There is a defined line with fire systems and programming, you can service or work on a system and not change how the system functions.
If the system isn't operating as commissioned it will throw a fault. The commissioning engineer would remain responsible, that all makes sense.
I would say intruder most is not demarked in separate level menus like this and difficult to define like that if it hit the fan.
But yes it's how you or the insurance interpret it, I am certainly in agreement you should default on incoming.
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9 hours ago, james.wilson said:
re manufacture yes that is why they have defaults. Its the same on intruder and fire, set defaults.
If you 6wb program something unfortunately you are liable for it. You may have done it right at the time, maybe 12 years ago, but if anyone inherits your programming thats what they did.
Your programming, your issue. Its the way it is today.
You say "unfortunately" being responsible for your work is all part of the job. It's not an issue if it's your own contracted system.
I don't see how you have evidence of what was programmed or not to prove liability. There is no written evidence of every programming option.
If someone defaults codes only they have changed the programming, if someone changes if chime is on and off or user codes, they have changed the programming...
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I don't see how you can prove any liability in that way.
So if the panel is pre-programmed the manufacturer is liable...? If the customer changes their own code that is a programming change...?
It is should a grey area surely. The last person to work on the system yes but last to touch the programming would be hard to prove?
There are genuine but rare situations that codes only is useful for your own stuff.
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It's not about "getting away" with anything it's about designing the system correctly and measuring/calculating your system current.
To make this clearer, the modes on Texecom bells:-
SCB - only draws charging current from panel, activation current from bell only.
LC - divides the activation current between the system and the sounder battery where possible, still a little quieter than SAB
SAB - the standard full volume option, where activation current is always drawn from the system and sounder battery is only for hold-off.
We are talking hundreds of mA difference between the options, from about as much as a passive, to about half an amp.
Personally I would suggest you connect one to the panel whatever you do, then at least one should operate correctly even if you get the programming or settings wrong.
But it's all down to the system design and where your powering everything else from.
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I did mention this in your Veritas thread, panels generally only have enough capacity to supply themselves, a keypad, sensors and one SAB.
The maximum current that can be supplied by it's power supply is not always the limiting factor, you do calculations based on standby battery capacity.
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If you want to have SAB's then you need a PSU200XP. If in the quieter SCB mode then possibly but you will have to check your current isn't overloading the panel.
You'll need to program the outputs and input correctly or it will FTO correctly.
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Section 889 only covers specific companies, Huawei, ZTE, Hytera, Hikvision, Dahua.
No components can be from these manufacturers, but what is to say the "blacklist" will not grow...
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Rebranded Shenzhen Digital...
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I wouldn't worry about it as long as it is repaired.
It's hard to say what is causing the issue without inspection.
I can rule out spiders, usually panic buttons are either magnetic (reed switches) or mechanical (microswitches) but it could equally be cabling damage, moisture or a list of other issues.
Worth noting even if the system is not part of the tenancy, if it's powered up it should be checked periodically. You will have similar disturbances if batteries go faulty.
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Doing work for nothing or pocket money helps nobody. It's bad for the industry as a whole. You are being used and are liable for your work.
Everyone wants something as cheap as possible. You just don't realise the bigger picture.
Even in your google review responsiveness is higher than value and it sounds like you charge next to nothing...
I/We don't have to point this out, do what you want...
In fact generally we don't have to post anything here, but the reason we participate is because we what to discuss issues around the trade and generally move the industry forward.
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Depends if it's latching tho
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You really should leave it to the landlord, you can create more hassle, even if it is frustrating.
You should make notes, times and dates of everything, when you reported it etc to cover yourself.
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It's not sustainable and in the meantime doing over local legit businesses.
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The hardware changed in 2000.
"Non-voliate memory" retaining programming is in the name... a panel is useless if it looses its memory upon power loss or faulty battery, no matter what is broken.
Generally if they loose memory once, they'll do it again no matter which hardware revision Veritas
Yes, the clicking is correct, I didn't question that if you read...
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The panel shouldn't loose it's memory like this, the charging rate should also be checked with a meter upon replacement.
The loudspeakers can fail if it's the built-in ones or maybe the speaker wire snapped or come loose if your only hearing keypad clicks and you think it was louder.
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Similar naming but not related companies.
Everyone will have a different opinion when it comes to manufacturers.
For example, I think both Gardtec and Pyronix are equally horrible....
It's probably irrelevant if your looking for a manual for your own system, it's already fitted.
SL Compact keypad
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ADE Accenta, all obsolete now. Best to upgrade system of that age.
Not working in what way? What is the condition of the rest of the system?
You could risk buying used but who knows how long that will last.