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9 hours ago, Driller said:
Thanks for the suggestions (and Mr Happy's inimitable input ;-)). I'll be able to get a tester on it tomorrow and see what it says. Cheers Nova for the heads up on the cards.
Possibly C4 / C7
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See which terminal is linked to the transistor then that should be your sounder output
Does the chip have 555 on it, as with a couple of caps that your timing circuit so your trigger would go to that chip
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53 minutes ago, MrHappy said:
There was going to be a "BSIA" open protocol of sensors on a shared data bus or something ?
They dont seam to have the power anymore to enforcer things, most of the manufactures have have somebody sat on a BS committee and make the regs to suit their panels.
If they did manage to do something it would end up like the fire protocols, 3/4 that you can buy of the shelf which are not compatible with each other and the big firms tie it down to their own.
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Could be the smart RIO PSU card (one on the right) if its the newer switch mode PSU, seen a few with a dodgy capacitor.
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8 hours ago, Andyha said:
There was also an issue with detectors which have to be mapped to the panel at G4 I believe, so a detector from manufacturer A would not work with manufacturer B's alarm panel because of the encrypted protocol exchange between the two.
Only every company I have heard of that was developing a G4 detector that sit on the control panel data BUS was risco, but this was when the Grading first came out. Iam glad they didnt make one would have been a joke.
Worked in a few banks where they have PACOM panels, and the detectors are still 1980s C+K dualtecs which must be wired EOL as they wont have any sort of data bus between the two.
Encrypted protocol wont happen in this country, unless a manufacturer who makes both panels and detectors does it, Thorn had encrypted RIOs for Galaxy think that the nearest anybody has got to it.
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59 minutes ago, Andyha said:
There are no grade 4 IAS panels on the commercial off the shelf market in the UK.
Grade 4 is only available to Government/Military who need an additional level of security.
There are very few (like 2) grade 4 detectors - also not available as COTs
Assume it is for signalling only or ask for a Threat and Risk Assessment that informs a G4 solution.
PACOM ACHIEVES HIGHEST EUROPEAN SECURITY GRADE FOR INTRUSION DETECTION EN50131 GRADE 4 APPROVAL. PACOM SYSTEMS® are pleased to announce the 8002 Intelligent Field Controller and associated devices have been awarded EN50131 Grade 4 approval – the highest European standard for intruder alarm securityand signalling.
As for detectors Siemens do a grade 4 (never seen one )
A grade 3 system correctly installed would surfice any building with ATS 4/5
CPNI approved detectors are just as rare.
Just seen this is public so taken a lot out.
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2 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
There all potted and only can have the magnet in one place so I suppose easier to design?
Not all potted, but I would have thought they should be
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4 hours ago, Cieska said:
Thanks for the interesting review on that, I will keep this in mind.
My initial idea is to set up the system to play with, to see how 'difficult' is to be a security engineer. Hopefully, any system will be just fine for that?
Also, this is the main reason why it must be as cheap as possible.
Start with a scantronic 9651 / texecom veritas r8 / honeywell G4
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15 hours ago, al-yeti said:
That's what I thought
C for confused dot come in my case lol
They both have Comms on board tho
The early pre dimension could be bought with or with comms onboard C for comms and as GG stated they didnt have any rear off wall tamper. Well that how we always order them.
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C is for comms onboard, D is dimension
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3 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
Shorrock and Acorn. Hmm, makes me recall some really old 2 zone key switch thing?
Horrible tan colour front
Do remember having the instructions for them once
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Google is your friend https://www.security.honeywell.com/uk/product-repository/galaxy-touchcenter-plus
Think the cp040 is dimension only https://www.security.honeywell.com/uk/-/media/SecurityUK/Resources/PDF/Customer-Product-Information-Bulletins_updated/CPIB026_CP040-CP041_TouchCenter_Update-pdf.pdf?la=en-GB&hash=0D994C439A7B6403B15DF510D46D15A403A0F842
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There was a Tech bulletin from Honeywell a few weeks back about them changing servers and details needed updating.
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Glad it worked
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Have a look at group status 53 - 7, should be a - for outputs to work all the time
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If the outputs are assigned correctly for that area have you got a bell delay programmed
What does not sound e/e or alarm tones ?
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Have a look for a Door RAS ATS1170 they have a RTE button input which is timed programmable
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2 hours ago, AgsDave said:
I did fit an eol to solve the issue. Just wondered if it was something I had missed in the programming.
Airitech need the 4K7 EOL if the zone isnt used, not like a Galaxy where you can spare it with nothing in the zone
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Airitechs need to see a 4k7 EOL even if the circuit is programmed as unused.
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Irrigation system covered
Next, artificial lighting and electric meter by pass
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27 minutes ago, MrHappy said:
cool, we are now as important as the old dear who works on the building society counter....
or a postie
or the sales staff in Iceland
Yep, but what these governing bodies dont realise is people dont want visitors in to their premises.
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