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HI Mike,
The first IR camera you suggested from RFconcepts is very good and I have used it in many situations. I havnt had the time to read through all the thread so please excuse my bluntness.
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Posted 03 January 2006 - 06:00 AM
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secure4, on Jan 3 2006, 06:00 AM, said:
HI Mike,
The first IR camera you suggested from RFconcepts is very good and I have used it in many situations. I havnt had the time to read through all the thread so please excuse my bluntness.
The first IR camera you suggested from RFconcepts is very good and I have used it in many situations. I havnt had the time to read through all the thread so please excuse my bluntness.
Ok! excellent. Do you mean this camera
Can you give me examples of the situations you have used it in? What sort of true range does it have at night (with enough light), and what type of light (I mean, can you give examples of the light source being used in conjunction with this camera (Colour Sony IR x 49ea-CC70CSHRX-4IR).
Would I need to house this camera or is that the housing as in the picture. My other concern is the camera being destroyed.
I am still undecided on which camera to get, but my choices are slowly being limited to something like this camera or the Samsung 520P or a dome camera or both.
,Mike
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They look awfully plasticy, to be Anti vandel..... Is it plastic on cast ? does it say on the spec. I reckon a nice brick would see those off in a few seconds....
These are the ones i have and there solid a rock....
Not sure the retial but i know they can be pricey esp. with Day night cam.
These are the ones i have and there solid a rock....
Not sure the retial but i know they can be pricey esp. with Day night cam.
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Norbain is where i got them from, i got 1 of them from ebay.
Heres some more info on them:
http://www.cctv-information.co.uk/cgi-bin/...ilent/v28r.html
They actually run a school bus over one on this movie
http://www.honeywell...deos/index.html
Dean
Heres some more info on them:
http://www.cctv-information.co.uk/cgi-bin/...ilent/v28r.html
They actually run a school bus over one on this movie
http://www.honeywell...deos/index.html
Dean
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Nice Video!!!
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Posted 03 January 2006 - 09:13 PM
I use the vantage and wall mount it no problems.
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Posted 05 January 2006 - 12:22 AM
I ordered one of the Sharp Cams to try out from eBay, will post some pics hopefully tomorrow as it's supposed to arrive by 1pm..
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At the risk of being a totally boring old f@rt, I just thought I ought to throw a couple of basic comments in the pot.
If there is an ongoing vandalism problem, ideally, it would be sensible to go covert first to identify who is doing it. Once caught, the covert camera can then (if appropriate) be converted to overt as an ongoing deterrent. If a visible camera is installed from the outset, it generally deters in about 75% of situations, but can have the effect of triggering other forms of ASB (anti social behaviour), outside the range of the camera. You can always successfully go from covert to overt, but rarely the other way around.
I think Peter James suggested that mounting the camera too high would be detrimental (apologies if I got that wrong), and I would have to agree wholeheartedly. The 'Cone of Containment' is completely wrong for a camera mounted in this position, as you will need to use a wider angle lens to achieve the vertical coverage, and that will produce smaller targets on the recorded image.
Personally, I would have gone for a very sensitive high resolution monochrome camera, mounted in the top corner of the downstairs window (provided of course it gives the desired coverage), and looked to upgrade the porch light which can then be left on all night. If a tungsten bulb is used, that will throw out lots of invisible IR allowing the B/W camera to produce a much brighter image, then would be suggested simply from the visible light level.
Using a 'box' camera with CS mount varifocal lens (personally I hate varifocals!), would allow an inexperienced user to frame the picture on the nearest parked vehicle (plus 1metre each end), and should give a very good image.
Incidentally, it would be preferable to park the red car nearer to the property, as it would benefit from the lighting more so than a silver vehicle (inverse square law and spectral reflectance .... don't even ask!!).
If there is an ongoing vandalism problem, ideally, it would be sensible to go covert first to identify who is doing it. Once caught, the covert camera can then (if appropriate) be converted to overt as an ongoing deterrent. If a visible camera is installed from the outset, it generally deters in about 75% of situations, but can have the effect of triggering other forms of ASB (anti social behaviour), outside the range of the camera. You can always successfully go from covert to overt, but rarely the other way around.
I think Peter James suggested that mounting the camera too high would be detrimental (apologies if I got that wrong), and I would have to agree wholeheartedly. The 'Cone of Containment' is completely wrong for a camera mounted in this position, as you will need to use a wider angle lens to achieve the vertical coverage, and that will produce smaller targets on the recorded image.
Personally, I would have gone for a very sensitive high resolution monochrome camera, mounted in the top corner of the downstairs window (provided of course it gives the desired coverage), and looked to upgrade the porch light which can then be left on all night. If a tungsten bulb is used, that will throw out lots of invisible IR allowing the B/W camera to produce a much brighter image, then would be suggested simply from the visible light level.
Using a 'box' camera with CS mount varifocal lens (personally I hate varifocals!), would allow an inexperienced user to frame the picture on the nearest parked vehicle (plus 1metre each end), and should give a very good image.
Incidentally, it would be preferable to park the red car nearer to the property, as it would benefit from the lighting more so than a silver vehicle (inverse square law and spectral reflectance .... don't even ask!!).
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Service Engineer, on Jan 5 2006, 12:22 AM, said:
I ordered one of the Sharp Cams to try out from eBay, will post some pics hopefully tomorrow as it's supposed to arrive by 1pm..
Service Engineer,
Just curious really, did you ever buy those cameras? What are they like? Do you have any night shot photos? What is the quality of the images? Can you send some examples?
,Mike
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If you need I.R then the CC70 from R.F. is a good unit, we have used hundreds of them.
Speak to R.F about which lens you require (ask for Roy or Billy)
Beware of spiders with this camera tho.
Speak to R.F about which lens you require (ask for Roy or Billy)
Beware of spiders with this camera tho.
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baywatch, on Jan 20 2006, 05:09 PM, said:
If you need I.R then the CC70 from R.F. is a good unit, we have used hundreds of them.
Beware of spiders with this camera tho.
Beware of spiders with this camera tho.
Tell me about it!! They are a pain in the 'arris
