Service Engineer Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I ordered one of the Sharp Cams to try out from eBay, will post some pics hopefully tomorrow as it's supposed to arrive by 1pm.. ........................................................ Dave Partridge (Romec Service Engineer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest matopia Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I ordered one of the Sharp Cams to try out from eBay, will post some pics hopefully tomorrow as it's supposed to arrive by 1pm.. Excellent, I emailed the guy selling the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Jon Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 At the risk of being a totally boring old f@rt, I just thought I ought to throw a couple of basic comments in the pot. If there is an ongoing vandalism problem, ideally, it would be sensible to go covert first to identify who is doing it. Once caught, the covert camera can then (if appropriate) be converted to overt as an ongoing deterrent. If a visible camera is installed from the outset, it generally deters in about 75% of situations, but can have the effect of triggering other forms of ASB (anti social behaviour), outside the range of the camera. You can always successfully go from covert to overt, but rarely the other way around. I think Peter James suggested that mounting the camera too high would be detrimental (apologies if I got that wrong), and I would have to agree wholeheartedly. The 'Cone of Containment' is completely wrong for a camera mounted in this position, as you will need to use a wider angle lens to achieve the vertical coverage, and that will produce smaller targets on the recorded image. Personally, I would have gone for a very sensitive high resolution monochrome camera, mounted in the top corner of the downstairs window (provided of course it gives the desired coverage), and looked to upgrade the porch light which can then be left on all night. If a tungsten bulb is used, that will throw out lots of invisible IR allowing the B/W camera to produce a much brighter image, then would be suggested simply from the visible light level. Using a 'box' camera with CS mount varifocal lens (personally I hate varifocals!), would allow an inexperienced user to frame the picture on the nearest parked vehicle (plus 1metre each end), and should give a very good image. Incidentally, it would be preferable to park the red car nearer to the property, as it would benefit from the lighting more so than a silver vehicle (inverse square law and spectral reflectance .... don't even ask!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest matopia Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I ordered one of the Sharp Cams to try out from eBay, will post some pics hopefully tomorrow as it's supposed to arrive by 1pm.. Service Engineer, Just curious really, did you ever buy those cameras? What are they like? Do you have any night shot photos? What is the quality of the images? Can you send some examples? , Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Engineer Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 TBH the quality of picture as the unit arrived was spoilt by the poor positioning of the LED's as they reflected off the dome cover onto the lens and were then visable on the image. After removing the LED's (which I felt I had to do), the image was better but only as good as the fixed camera I already had. For ........................................................ Dave Partridge (Romec Service Engineer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubularowl Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I had similar problems to you last November. Coincidentaly, I was installing CCTV at the time anyway and were able to identify the people responsible after a couple of days. The police went round to their houses and got them. My IR camara is a 50m one but it only really can see faces at 8m with some background illumination. I'm upgrading my system now so will follow your post. Does CCTV work. Well I'm still a bit uneasy in the evening sometimes but at least I know that any thing is being recorded on motion detection. I've not had anymore problems and any kids now walk on the other side of the road but the CCTV still gets them over there anyway HaHa. If you go down the pc route get a dedicated pc for the job. Mine was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest matopia Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I had similar problems to you last November. Coincidentaly, I was installing CCTV at the time anyway and were able to identify the people responsible after a couple of days. The police went round to their houses and got them. My IR camara is a 50m one but it only really can see faces at 8m with some background illumination.I'm upgrading my system now so will follow your post. Does CCTV work. Well I'm still a bit uneasy in the evening sometimes but at least I know that any thing is being recorded on motion detection. I've not had anymore problems and any kids now walk on the other side of the road but the CCTV still gets them over there anyway HaHa. If you go down the pc route get a dedicated pc for the job. Mine was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest matopia Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 It's been 20 days since my decision to install CCTV to my property and my search for a camera has been some what frustrating because there has are so many cameras on offer, and even though advice from everyone on this forum has been amazing, I am still a little apprehensive about rushing into buying a CCTV kit i know nothing about.But I want to wrap this up as soon as possible, because I have CCTV on the brain and it cannot be a good thing. So I have compiled a list of cameras I am interested in. I would appreciate your thoughts on the cameras and please feel free to recommend a similar camera. I am not interested in a cheap alternative (e.g. an EBAY lookalike, or a gadget spy camera). I have �350 to spend. That is a maximum, so I am expecting everything (box, cables, psu, lenses, mounts etc) for that price. --------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.buythis.co.uk/open_product.asp?...ffset=&Orderby=Vantage VGC750 - 1/2 G Series CCTV Camera Day/Night - 3yr warranty for �199.480 Line, 0.5 Lux, DD, AMP, BLC, IR Responsive 240Vac* 480 TVL* IR Pass Filter* 0.5 Lux (F1.2)* 4 mode backlight compensation* Camera ID Function* Cat5 Video Output/Comp Video Output* Available in 12v/24Vac VGC752---------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/cs_camera.htmTrue Day/Night C/CS mount CameraModel 45CSHR-12 �95 SpecialSony Super HAD CCD 500TVL High ResAuto Iris will accept Manual, direct or video drive lens.With 3.5-8mm direct drive lens �1251/3" Sony super HAD CCD 500TVL High Res0.01 lux at F1.212V DC--------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/cs_camera.htmTrue day/night C/CS mount cameraModel 45CSHRX �115Sony EXVIEW HAD 500TVL High RES.Auto Iris will accept Manual, direct or video lenswith 3.5-8mm direct drive lens �1351/3" Sony EXVIEW HAD CCD 500TVL0.001 lux at F1.212VDC-------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/colour_sony_ir.htmIR x 49ea-CC70CSHRX-4IRSony EXVIEW HADA CDD �155Fixed focal 4.3mm, 8mm, or 12mm lens0 Lux at no illumination850nm (long range) IR LEDs x 49ea12VDC/ 1A required for high power IRcable attached with waterproof connector------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/cam-bullet-bw.htmModel 19BWQuality camera -1/3" CCDWaterproof Fixed focus lens Good low light capability, 0.05lux Hori. 420 TV-line Auto-iris controlled by electronic system Aluminium housing, Black Complete with bracket CCIR format--------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/sony_colour_ccd.htm21CWSHRX (High Res EXVIEW (low light) Sony CCD �145High Res, 1/3", DSP color CCD (Sony Super HAD)480 TV Lines0.5 Lux at F2.00.1 Lux at 2.0 (EX-View version)------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baywatch Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 If you need I.R then the CC70 from R.F. is a good unit, we have used hundreds of them. Speak to R.F about which lens you require (ask for Roy or Billy) Beware of spiders with this camera tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secure4 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 If you need I.R then the CC70 from R.F. is a good unit, we have used hundreds of them.Beware of spiders with this camera tho. Tell me about it!! They are a pain in the 'arris Regards. Mark secure4.me.uk digital cctv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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