Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Hi can anyone help me I need so replace my internal sounder I think I have bought the correct replacement. the old one looks like a CQR soint2 with blue plastic insert for the cover screw inside just a simple connector bloc as the pictures show the new one I have bought is a CQR soint2 hi-lo and has circuit board and unfamiliar connections on it Am I right my green and white is my tamper and red = 12v and black negative hi or low or have I bought the wrong thing, if not how do I wire it in correctly thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 Hi can anyone help me I need so replace my internal sounder I think I have bought the correct replacement. the old one looks like a CQR soint2 with blue plastic insert for the cover screw inside just a simple connector bloc as the pictures show the new one I have bought is a CQR soint2 hi-lo and has circuit board and unfamiliar connections on it Am I right my green and white is my tamper and red = 12v and black negative hi or low or have I bought the wrong thing, if not how do I wire it in correctly thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 You have a Soint loudspeaker and have purchased a Soint sounder. It there a reason for replacing it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: You have a Soint loudspeaker and have purchased a Soint sounder. It there a reason for replacing it? Yes the original had a broken casing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 If you want you can reuse the old electronics in the new casing, it's likely not worth the cost to send back and replace for the right model. Just be careful you don't break anything when swapping the insides over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 I’m upgrading the pir detectors and putting in a new keypad at the same time and looking at the two sounders it’s not just a simple case swap I think the new one will work fine just want to know what terminals to wire in to on the new one 2 hours ago, PeterJames said: Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating Sorry new to site and didn’t really know where to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 It will not work using a sounder where you need a speaker and the casing is the same. On that one you could even reuse the speaker as they are the same impedance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 But how do I stop the case all the tamper switch is fitted to the circuit boar and in to the case don’t think I can get the tamper switch out without damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 Should I have ordered this instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Andy cb said: But how do I stop the case all the tamper switch is fitted to the circuit boar and in to the case don’t think I can get the tamper switch out without damage Swap the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Andy cb said: Swap the case In new one disconnect the speaker from the circuit board and use it as you did your old Or swap the case damaging the tamper switch won't matter Or use this new one as an internal bell and use it on outputs and keep broken one connected as is Just swap the case as said above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) I want to keep and use tamper speaker is soldered into circuit board so would need to cut it out to swap case over I think I would run risk of braking new case as I try to take out speaker, circuit board and LED Edited October 25, 2019 by Andy cb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Andy cb said: I want to keep and use tamper speaker is soldered into circuit board so would need to cut it out to swap case over I think I would run risk of braking new case as I try to take out speaker, circuit board and LED You can disconnect the tamper aswell and use that on a tamper circuit Either way you can't use that circuit board on the speaker output simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Andy cb said: But how do I stop the case all the tamper switch is fitted to the circuit boar and in to the case don’t think I can get the tamper switch out without damage Swap the case 11 minutes ago, al-yeti said: You can disconnect the tamper aswell and use that on a tamper circuit Either way you can't use that circuit board on the speaker output simple Ok I think I need to return it am I right I’m needing to CQR soint1 I posted about earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 There's not much to it, you either send it back and have to wait and pay again or... a) remove all the electronics from both cases and swap them over b) snip all the black wires on the new unit close to the PCB, remove PCB fit and wire the terminal blocks like in the original. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: There's not much to it, you either send it back and have to wait and pay again or... a) remove all the electronics from both cases and swap them over b) snip all the black wires on the new unit close to the PCB, remove PCB fit and wire the terminal blocks like in the original. choc block onto speaker, retain driver board for tamper, easy ? 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 If you don't mind the terminal strip floating around yer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: If you don't mind the terminal strip floating around yer. So what your saying is snip all the black wires from the new speaker and the new tamper switch take out the circuit board and led and just use the connector bloc from old sounder Edited October 25, 2019 by Andy cb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 14 hours ago, Andy cb said: So what your saying is snip all the black wires from the new speaker and the new tamper switch take out the circuit board and led and just use the connector bloc from old sounder Yes but your going in circles now read all answers more or less what they been saying all along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 20 hours ago, al-yeti said: You can disconnect the tamper aswell and use that on a tamper circuit Either way you can't use that circuit board on the speaker output simple Ok I think I need to return it am I right I’m needing to CQR soint1 I posted about earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy cb Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 Al-yeti I know what others have said about simply swapping case and cut this and cut that but when you’ve just spent best part of £30 getting what you had been told before was the right part to get then your forgive me for being a bit reluctant to start cutting wires and swapping this for that also new to this site and this topic should have been posted in the diy installer forum not in here but thanks all for advice and assistance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Andy cb said: Al-yeti I know what others have said about simply swapping case and cut this and cut that but when you’ve just spent best part of £30 getting what you had been told before was the right part to get then your forgive me for being a bit reluctant to start cutting wires and swapping this for that also new to this site and this topic should have been posted in the diy installer forum not in here but thanks all for advice and assistance So sounder was £30? Didn't realise you paid so much thinking it was speaker Apologies , yes hope you kept packaging return won't cost you more than a fiver and probably cost you £17 .50 in end for speak not to bad in the end Edited October 26, 2019 by al-yeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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