sixwheeledbeast Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 You can do bells on confirmed but it's not default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 no my point was/is Quote If I do the same with the wired PIR, I get event logs of "Alarm - Zone 003 Guard Alarm" followed by "Confirmed intruder" and "Confirmed alarm" then "Bell active". why is zone 003 causing confirmed intruder unless as above its set to only ring on confirm and you are actually triggering 2 devices? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufjax Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Just browsing the texecom manual Under Area settings whats the difference between 00 - Alarm and 01 - Guard alarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Pittaway Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Okay from the comments posted (thanks by the way!) I've changed the PIR's into "AUTO" mode instead of Hybrid. I'm thinking the comments about a single device/zone not triggering a confirmed alarm is the problem - my expectation is it would set bells active. Are you suggesting that if somebody breaks into a single room (i.e. lounge) the PIR would detect this, but not set bells active because only a single sensor has detected it ? Bit pointless if thats the case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Pittaway Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 I've done another capture in WinTex of the events The events below show the alarm arming, and then me leaving the system for a couple of minutes to settle. I then activate the zone 009 PIR (Toilet!) - the action is registered by the alarm (active) but no bells. After a minute, I then activate zone 011 and the alarm activates + bells + confirmed alarm. 0478 5:54:22 PM 12/07/2016 Not Reported A . . . Exit Started Net 1 - Rkp 1 0479 5:54:37 PM 12/07/2016 Close A . . . Area(s) Quick Armed 0480 5:56:26 PM 12/07/2016 Alarm A . . . Zone 009 Guard Alarm - Toilet PIR 0481 5:56:27 PM 12/07/2016 Not Reported A . . . Alarm Active 0482 5:56:48 PM 12/07/2016 Restore A . . . Zone 009 Guard Restore - Toilet PIR 0483 5:57:27 PM 12/07/2016 Alarm A . . . Zone 011 Guard Alarm - Living Rm PIR 0484 5:57:28 PM 12/07/2016 Priority Alarm A . . . Confirmed Intruder 0485 5:57:29 PM 12/07/2016 Alarm A . . . Confirmed Alarm 0486 5:57:29 PM 12/07/2016 Not Reported A . . . Bell Active 0487 5:57:32 PM 12/07/2016 Restore A . . . Zone 011 Guard Restore - Living Rm PIR 0488 5:57:33 PM 12/07/2016 Not Reported A B C D System Access by User 03 - Family 0489 5:57:33 PM 12/07/2016 Open A . . . Area(s) DISARMED 0490 5:57:33 PM 12/07/2016 Open A . . . Alarm Abort This second activation shows zone 009 being activated again, but no confirmed alarm. 0491 5:57:46 PM 12/07/2016 Not Reported A . . . Exit Started Net 1 - Rkp 1 0492 5:58:01 PM 12/07/2016 Close A . . . Area(s) Quick Armed 0493 6:00:14 PM 12/07/2016 Alarm A . . . Zone 009 Guard Alarm - Toilet PIR 0494 6:00:15 PM 12/07/2016 Not Reported A . . . Alarm Active 0495 6:00:19 PM 12/07/2016 Restore A . . . Zone 009 Guard Restore - Toilet PIR 0496 6:00:54 PM 12/07/2016 Not Reported A B C D System Access by User 03 - Family 0497 6:01:03 PM 12/07/2016 Not Reported A B C D System Access by User 03 - Family 0498 6:01:07 PM 12/07/2016 Open A . . . Area(s) DISARMED 0499 6:01:07 PM 12/07/2016 Open A . . . Alarm Abort Assuming this is the correct way the system is supposed to work - what are my best options for securing a room - multiple PIRs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercts Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 hi if the panel is programed to bells and sounder on confirmed this is used on commercial or large domestic systems mainly on a police response system confirmed alarms need two detectors to activate in one area to generate an audible alarm an example is one detector in a shop by the front door and a 360 disc in the same area if one activates the alarm send an unconfirmed signal if both see movement then the bells ring and it sends a confirmed alarm if you have only one detector in a room and you want an audible alarm you need to change the option in wintex under system config to bell 1st alarm and sounder 1st alram hope this helps peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Bell on Confirm is on Sys Config option 26? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J&D Security Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, petercts said: hi if the panel is programed to bells and sounder on confirmed this is used on commercial or large domestic systems mainly on a police response system confirmed alarms need two detectors to activate in one area to generate an audible alarm an example is one detector in a shop by the front door and a 360 disc in the same area if one activates the alarm send an unconfirmed signal if both see movement then the bells ring and it sends a confirmed alarm if you have only one detector in a room and you want an audible alarm you need to change the option in wintex under system config to bell 1st alarm and sounder 1st alram hope this helps peter Stuart, As peter said the setting can be changed Quote janddsecurity@live.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Pittaway Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Thank you for the help. I've not tested this yet, but it makes sense. To summarise the issues resolved: 1. Ensure PIRs are in AUTO mode 2. Untick option 26 and 27 for "bells on confirmed alarm" (switched off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercts Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 hi is it still set to grade 3! if so you only need grade 2 this is a great system but is not intended as a easy diy fit it is aimed at high security and a police response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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