ElecTech Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Am I right in thinking no cable whatsoever can be wired outside of the internal protected area? I have a scenario that has a corridor with multiple rooms which span off, I was hoping to locate all access controllers in one server room, this would cause an issue wiring through different rooms to each door... Would it have to be wired so each access area is higher than the one before? OR is that irrelevant and no cable should be ran through different areas to reach the final door? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40297-access-control-protected-cable/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 It all depends on the risk, though the other thing to consider is current drop to the locks. The whole reason that access control systems are not made as ten, twenty, and thirty door controllers is because the manufacturer expects you to install the controller in close proximity to the door. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40297-access-control-protected-cable/#findComment-448197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 As Peter, I have installations where the mag is on the 'unprotected' side of the door, because it saves on silly amounts of z brackets etc and looks the part with just the mag on the frame, nothing looks worse than chunks of ali bolted to the door. RA suggests one can't get to the mag connections whilst the door is closed, so customer is happy on all counts. Imo the same goes for wiring, use common sense and initiative. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40297-access-control-protected-cable/#findComment-448201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 rulland, you could peel it with a flat blade though? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40297-access-control-protected-cable/#findComment-448216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alarmcom Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Most jobs I do have mags on the corridor side as the doors open inwards same as Rulland. Not sure about protected area though. These are access control doors and not outside the protected premises as a whole. If they were perimeter doors I would see an issue. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40297-access-control-protected-cable/#findComment-448223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 You are correct James, but where I do position a mag on the 'wrong' side of the door for aesthetic purposes, it's an area where access has already been granted by fob or the person has been let in by a employee etc so anyone wielding a screwdriver shouldn't be there anyway, that's the theory. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40297-access-control-protected-cable/#findComment-448248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aissecur Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Could you install the cable in 20 or 25mm galv conduit so mechanical & physical protection are met Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40297-access-control-protected-cable/#findComment-448549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElecTech Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Could do but the end box's are still a vulnerability? Security screws maybe but majority of the time they are a waste of effort. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/40297-access-control-protected-cable/#findComment-448612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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