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We have full undongled version on server. if you go to site and use laptop that has a version installed and try to connect to a panel that has already been connected to by RSS it wont let you even if the UDL password in the comms is the same.

 

Any sites that have been connected to via RSS on server we have to export site from server and import on laptop for it to connect, so there must be something going on.

 

Only have issues with G3 panels

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Password, system ID and site ID required in filled in, if its a new site UDL password will do for G2 but once a G3 connects the software gives it a system ID

 

If you do a automated call via RSS it creates a virgin site and gives the panel a system ID which the only way to get round is to crash the panel, unless you have the system ID

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But there's nothing on the panels stopping you from connecting except the password....?

 

Correct, but RSS also performs secondary checks.

 

Password, system ID and site ID required in filled in, if its a new site UDL password will do for G2 but once a G3 connects the software gives it a system ID

 

If you do a automated call via RSS it creates a virgin site and gives the panel a system ID which the only way to get round is to crash the panel, unless you have the system ID

 

Agreed, but as above, the password is the only protection. If you have the password, you can request any information from the panel. 

 

Once RSS gets authenticated with the password, it then checks the other ID's for matches. It does this by requesting the panel values and then checking that they match the values stored in the site.

 

We have full undongled version on server. if you go to site and use laptop that has a version installed and try to connect to a panel that has already been connected to by RSS it wont let you even if the UDL password in the comms is the same.

 

Any sites that have been connected to via RSS on server we have to export site from server and import on laptop for it to connect, so there must be something going on.

 

Only have issues with G3 panels

 

What is the error message that RSS gives ?   If the password is correct, then it will complain that the site ID or something else does not match.  In the newly created site on the new system, you need to add these values in.  There's no other seeding of the RSS password.

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We went to take over a large site with a G3 on it, had engineers code changed by losing company connected up the laptop, and it wouldn't connect. in the g3 panel there is no pace to program the downloader ID or system ID so unless you know them you are not connecting to the panel unless you crash it and reprogram it.

 

When we install a new system them site is then sent to our server which generates a system ID and puts our downloader ID in to the panel, then if we take a laptop to that site the only way to connect to it is to export the file from our server and import it on our laptop.

 

Might of missed something but where on a G3 can you programe the downloader ID ?

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When you have the engineer code, this still doesn't give you the RSS code. There is no menu option to reset the RSS code. There is a convoluted way to get the code - PM me if you need to know.

It sounds like your office based system sets a (random or derived) password and stores this in the RSS database. As you don't know this, the only way to get it is to export the config from the office system. The password is encrypted in the RSS database, so you cannot see it in the exported site file.

The RSS password is the equivalent of the downloader ID on the G2. It's more secure than the G2 though, as it's alphanumeric and can be longer than the 8 digit G2 downloader. There's no menu access to the rss code though.

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