charlie6 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Abbz, you've lost me a bit.. no ! a lot..Help me out here. "... Pyronix rarely causes issues with detector faults ..." Are you referring to the panel 'causing issues with detector faults' or are you referring to pyronix detectors in general.. I've never known a panel to cause issues with a detector.. but as usual (open to comment). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Dear me, arguments again ! whatever happened to a good old fashioned dialler ? Charlie, I fail to see any argument but statements without much or any thought like 'al yeti's' should be clarified. James likes his apps, I don't. I like my texts/calls and James doesn't. That doesn't constitute an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbz Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Things like high res faults you commonly get on galaxy panels for no reason. Find more stable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Fair comment Dick, I take it all back. Thanks for the info Abbz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 the dialler is a seperate debate p/ss poor alarm delivery method but cheap. go with semaphore thats cheaper Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 the dialler is a seperate debate p/ss poor alarm delivery method but cheap. go with semaphore thats cheaper I've had any years of non pîss poor automated service though, James. I operate mine every day for several applications without a hiccup. As for Alarm notification I get what you say about it not being trusted like other regular polling methods but again I've had no problems to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Looking at availability figures ive seen comm links with no use for 40% of the day. Its all risk dependant and im probably looking at it from a different angle. As an installer i refused to install a dialler due to issues, I hope when its needed it works. Question would you rather know there was a potential issue with it or just assume it will work when needed? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Charlie, I fail to see any argument but statements without much or any thought like 'al yeti's' should be clarified. James likes his apps, I don't. I like my texts/calls and James doesn't. That doesn't constitute an argument. Let me know what you need clarifying? Let me know what you need clarifying? Are I see previous post, I still stand by my statement , perhaps rephrase a little "most diyers won't use all the outputs and will simply use one output from the panel to activate a dialler for notification, outputs on diallers are rare to be used by diyers , maybe a few do but most don't " Only in my limited opinion and perhaps on the grand scheme of things that's what I have seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Looking at availability figures ive seen comm links with no use for 40% of the day. Its all risk dependant and im probably looking at it from a different angle. As an installer i refused to install a dialler due to issues, I hope when its needed it works. Question would you rather know there was a potential issue with it or just assume it will work when needed? As an installer I can see your predicament and agree with the fact there can really only be one option if you were asked. That said, I'm not sure I'd trust a monitoring station to be on the ball, having heard a few stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 As an installer I can see your predicament and agree with the fact there can really only be one option if you were asked. That said, I'm not sure I'd trust a monitoring station to be on the ball, having heard a few stories. id love to hear them? But i didnt mean that i meant prrof of path. Ive seen stats that show that a some comms are off line for hours a day and dont show up as an issue Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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