JasonOfOz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Hi Everyone, We have a clent's offices where the lifts open directly onto the office floor. I have put a dual tech detector across the front of the lift doors but need something else to give me a confirmed alarm. Has anyone got any thoughts/recommendations as to what to install onto lift doors? (Is there a contact that can be installed onto them?) Alternatively, could we just position a quad detector infront of the lift area (so that it doesn't overlap with the dual tech) to give us the confirmed if anyone steps beyond the area where the keypad will be located? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Can the lift Co give you an output? Save faffing. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOfOz Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 That's a good idea. Mind you I tend to give lift companies a wide berth because they seem to have a license to print money when you ask for the simplest of things. Plus generally any wiring needs to be run from the lift motor room which is sometimes quite labour intensive. Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised, so will ask the question. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Set of beams across the opening Quote The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) As breff. Optex make some flush units that are much less obtrusive than the regular type (AX-100sr) Also, not a problem over-lapping a quad and a dual tech or two dual techs, it's two PIRs you can't over-lap. Edited September 5, 2014 by antinode Quote Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Darwin beams Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazoman1 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 tmd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiml Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 TMD is a good solution but if the detector is the FE then it will never cause a confirmed alarm. Could you aim your DT at the lift door and the TMD away from the door. As in after the keypad. Not ideal but may work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOfOz Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 As breff. Optex make some flush units that are much less obtrusive than the regular type (AX-100sr) Also, not a problem over-lapping a quad and a dual tech or two dual techs, it's two PIRs you can't over-lap. wow yes - thanks for this - I haven't used these ones before - definitely worth having a look at. TMD is a good solution but if the detector is the FE then it will never cause a confirmed alarm. Could you aim your DT at the lift door and the TMD away from the door. As in after the keypad. Not ideal but may work. Yes well as it's near the lifts, one of them will be the final exit one. So can someone explain what the rule is on overlapping areas? Previously I thought by using a TMD would mean I would only need a single detector - now i understand that's not the case, so what is the point of a TMD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 its in the entry route, so cant confirm? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Judging by James's ?, I assume he doesn't know either?, are there actually any rules/regs that aren't totally ambiguous?, or are all we all just pi$$ing in the wind hoping that someone gets their act together finally?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The regs are quite descript. You cant confirm on the entry. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alarm Protection Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Oh the regs are great for a simple install lol! The things we have to bend over for. Quote ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Lol, chub lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Chubb lock on the lift doors, yes! Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 what happen when the client goes home to prevent any one going into the wrong floor & setting the alarm off ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I'm guessing it's keyswitch or swipe for clients floor? Seen that a few times. Have often wondered about legality but always fire stairs. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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