Adi Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Keypads at all entry points, internal speakers at all entry points, contacts on all doors, 1 PIR per downstairs room. Upstairs PIR on landing, possibly PIR in main bedroom (protect the wifes jewellery). Also if any bedrooms have flat roofs/conservatories below their windows PIR in them as well.You could go for shock sensors on windows but most people dont. Always advisable to put at least one smoke detector per floor. Control panel location, somewhere in the centre of the house if possible keeps cable runs easier. Understairs cupboard, airing cupboard etc. Run a phone line to the panel and it gives you the option of dialler etc. Live bell front of house, Live or Dummy at rear. Hope this helps. PS Use 8 core alarm cable for everything and use a panel with enough zones to wire 1 detector per zone. Glenn 23904[/snapback] Why use 8 core mate? I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RICHL Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Personally id forget shock sensors, more trouble than their worth, and have a habit of going off at the most inconveient moment, i suspect its part of their programming! Monteey - change your shock sensors mate! We use hundreds and to be honest I would say they are more reliable than PIRs, and certainly more reliable than contacts. The only problem you may get is with condensation on the pcb. We have one job - an old station - right on the east coast main line which has shocks in, and gives no problem at all. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Keypads at all entry points, internal speakers at all entry points, contacts on all doors, 1 PIR per downstairs room. Upstairs PIR on landing, possibly PIR in main bedroom (protect the wifes jewellery). Also if any bedrooms have flat roofs/conservatories below their windows PIR in them as well.You could go for shock sensors on windows but most people dont. Always advisable to put at least one smoke detector per floor. Control panel location, somewhere in the centre of the house if possible keeps cable runs easier. Understairs cupboard, airing cupboard etc. Run a phone line to the panel and it gives you the option of dialler etc. Live bell front of house, Live or Dummy at rear. Hope this helps. PS Use 8 core alarm cable for everything and use a panel with enough zones to wire 1 detector per zone. Glenn 23904[/snapback] Why use 8 core mate? 25073[/snapback] Because the cost difference is negligible and the benefit's are up to 6 spare cores for future cable faults. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RICHL Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 True, or just earth any spares. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 True, or just earth any spares. 25090[/snapback] earth spares!!!now your asking for trouble....stick with the 2core bell wire.. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteey Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 We never use anything but 8 core, i mean whats the point in saving a quid or so when in the future you need to add a detector and you need 2 spare cores, 6 core should be left with people who dont forward plan or like to cut costs to the bone. Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer  www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellman Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Personally id forget shock sensors, more trouble than their worth, and have a habit of going off at the most inconveient moment, i suspect its part of their programming! Monteey - change your shock sensors mate! We use hundreds and to be honest I would say they are more reliable than PIRs, and certainly more reliable than contacts. The only problem you may get is with condensation on the pcb. We have one job - an old station - right on the east coast main line which has shocks in, and gives no problem at all. 25077[/snapback] Their probably the wonderful texecom ones. Regards Bellman Service Engineer and all round nice bloke ) The views above are mine and NOT those of my employer. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RICHL Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Did a big, heavy Texecom box fall over on you as a child Bellman?! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 As monteey has answered, use 8 core because it can save so much grief later for additions. Also if he were to use shocks he may need to make them latch. The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MKAlarms Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Did a big, heavy Texecom box fall over on you as a child Bellman?! 25113[/snapback] ROFLMAO! At least he'd be protected nowadays by that enormous chip on his shoulder! (He does seem to be on a one man mission to persecute...) Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3628-system-recommendations/page/2/#findComment-25118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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