May 26, 201312 yr comment_323292 Hi all, I have just finished installing a basic CCTV system at my work, which comprises of: 1x Ademco 16-channel H.264 DVR (1TB HDD) 11x Honeywell HD73PX 600TVL Vandal Resistant Dome Camera DVR details: http://www.ademco.eu/products/23/ADKRD164A/ Camera details: http://www.citysecuritysystems.co.uk/honeywell-hd73px-cctv-dome-camera https://www.security.honeywell.com/uk/video/documents/HVS-HD73PX-01-UK(1011)DS-C.pdf Everything is connected, motion detect recording is enabled on all channels and I can log into the DVR from home and view live/recorded images, which is great. I currently have the DVR set to record in highest resolution (D1) at 6FPS. However, I'm unhappy with the quality, which is much lower than I had expected, especially at night. I will post some day/night images to try and highlight the issue... As you can see, the image quality at night is appalling, and most definitely wouldn't enable intruders to be identified. Is there anything else I can do? Are there any different cameras I should get instead? Thanks in advance! Gareth Edited May 26, 201312 yr by garmcqui Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr comment_323305 Identification requires very small areas covered if using as you are pal cameras. it would be better if you said at what distances and what areas and at what light levels you need id. as a rule most analogue cameras are only used for general viewing not id. You need higher resolution cameras. For example the post pal can do is approx 0.3 megapixel securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323305 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr comment_323312 ^^^^^^ Sensible words. The pictures you see are what I'd expect with the kit you have used. There is more to installing CCTV than putting a bnc on the end of rg59. Edited May 26, 201312 yr by matthew.brough www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323312 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr comment_323348 That said though those cameras are getting what looks like ir reflection was it raining? The attached are a similar setup the cameras are 700TVL Sony Effio and the recorder is Jpeg not that cruppy H264 but I would of expected similar quality Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323348 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr comment_323350 Both rain reflection and IR 'bloom' i'd say. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323350 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr comment_323351 Just so you can see total darkness Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323351 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr Author comment_323357 Thanks for the replies. I've been reading a lot that outdoor dome cameras with inbuilt IR (which is what I've got) aren't a good idea. Would I be better replacing with bullet cameras? All the cameras (with the exception of camera 1) are no more than 5m away from the area I want them to cover. The main reason for installing the CCTV was that I want all of the exits/fire exits etc covered. The building is in a very rural location, so no street lighting and is in complete darkness at night. The camera's can be zoomed in more than they are, but when doing this I found it very hard to focus them. I realise the cameras might work better if I switch off the outdoor lights (cam 1 and 3). Would I be better with some external IR floodlights to help night vision? how do I prevent rain reflection? Gareth Edited May 26, 201312 yr by garmcqui Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323357 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr comment_323365 There is an app called techmaster un the downloads are which will do lens calculations for you securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323365 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr comment_323366 Hi Gareth You cant prevent rain reflection, no more than you can prevent the rain. If you really need to see when its raining then you need to flood light the area with white light. IR cameras can produce a reasonable image if you have the right ones and they are set up correctly. The problem with a lot of eary ir cams was that they did not seperate the ir from the camera lense and the ir would reflect straight off the glass and into the camera lense.Honewell are a good make I guess unless they are old they would be ok Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323366 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
May 26, 201312 yr comment_323367 Personally I'd put what you have in the skip and get some decent IP cameras. These shots are taken from just a 1.3MP camera. The 2 MP ones are stunning. www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/34628-new-cctv-system-unhappy-with-night-quality/#findComment-323367 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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