matthew.brough Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 The SSAIB changed all that forever. NSIs view was that the company had I have substance, resource etc etc however SSAIB took the view as long as stan and his van could fit a system ok then the rest of the things didn't matter hence why we are where we are today. Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Worm Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Lion Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 The SSAIB changed all that forever. NSIs view was that the company had I have substance, resource etc etc however SSAIB took the view as long as stan and his van could fit a system ok then the rest of the things didn't matter hence why we are where we are today. So Golds didn't and don't go tits then? They don't carry out sharp practices? They don't countenance shoddy work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 So Golds didn't and don't go tits then? They don't carry out sharp practices? They don't countenance shoddy work? Absolutely. In fact if we are talking about installation standards on the whole I think SSAIB firms will do dramatically better installs as they tend to be owner managed businesses and the owner tends to be good at the physical product but lacks the other side. Golds are generically better businesses but the install quality not so hot. Not sure % wise many golds go bang compared to number of them approved Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Absolutely. In fact if we are talking about installation standards on the whole I think SSAIB firms will do dramatically better installs as they tend to be owner managed businesses and the owner tends to be good at the physical product but lacks the other side. Golds are generically better businesses but the install quality not so hot. Not sure % wise many golds go bang compared to number of them approved I was commenting on the issues generally. Â Unless you major on intruder, there is no benefit, indeed it is a pointless cost, being a member of an inspectorate. Â Still, people start up companies - and fair play to them - chasing the dream and then sign up for a badge. How many of the companies that go tits were doomed to failure right from the off, irrespective of badge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 A lot. IMO the future is going to be more bigger firms running the show rather than a high number of one man bands. I agree the value of the badge is only intruder hence why we are removing CCTV/access/8418. I can see the days of removing intruder not far off. We have gone from an estate of 100% urn'd systems to around 20% now. Speaking with other installers they too don't have anywhere near the urn level that once was. Seems the end user and insurers don't see the value anymore Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Absolutely. In fact if we are talking about installation standards on the whole I think SSAIB firms will do dramatically better installs as they tend to be owner managed businesses I wouldnt go that far,good and bad in both from what I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew.brough Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I wouldnt go that far,good and bad in both from what I see You're wrong Quote www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 You're wrong your not right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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