OakAlarms Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 as you mention BOM + screening I assume you've done there check list & have purchased the BSI standards & are only short of system numbers Yes, you right I've purchased BSI standards and check list is always done. I am short of system numbers and I keep loosing projects because of not being member of NSI... and NSI will not start the inspection process unless I have few more in pipeline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Yes, you right I've purchased BSI standards and check list is always done. I am short of system numbers and I keep loosing projects because of not being member of NSI... and NSI will not start the inspection process unless I have few more in pipeline... how mannt do NSI want ? Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 10 out of 12 posts are irrelevant and don't answer my question. They concern word 'partner'. I haven't told I have partnership program with Texecom (and I don't think any customer really care). I thought that installing only Texe and being their installer makes me some kind of partner, need to work more with dictionary. I will change it to 'follower' e.g. NSI codes of practice faithful follower and proud Texecom believer. But your website say's Oak Alarms is London based and specialises in intruder (and fire) alarms to both residential and commercial properties. As a partner of famous, prize-winning, british manufacturer Texecom (Registered Installer No. 19365) and National Security Inspectorate we provide the highest possible standard of our installations. The way NSI will see it is that you are implying that you are NSI and a Texecom Registered Installer, which is fraud, and fraud can give you a criminal record, and you can't get NSI accreditation with a criminal record. NSI members have worked hard and spent fortunes on acheiving their status, you think they wont report you? Heres some advice remove the statement before somebody reports you (Probably the best bit of advice you have had so far) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 im slightly confused you have a texecom partner membership number?, but then say you are not? Also agree on the nsi statement. If your not you need to adjust that. I didnt think nsi wanted 10 systems, but been years since we applied so maybe its changed? Have they said they want to inspect 10, i thought it was 3-5? As mr h says you will be able to install some systems for inspection. You could also look at ssaib for approval that may be (for want of a better word) an easier option. You sound like you have most of the bases covered already. so just a matter of getting a few systems installed for them to inspect what you do. Out of curiosity, you say you have lost work cos your not nsi, do you mean approved generally or specifically nsi? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakAlarms Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 But your website say's The way NSI will see it is that you are implying that you are NSI and a Texecom Registered Installer, which is fraud, and fraud can give you a criminal record, and you can't get NSI accreditation with a criminal record. NSI members have worked hard and spent fortunes on acheiving their status, you think they wont report you? Heres some advice remove the statement before somebody reports you (Probably the best bit of advice you have had so far) I am registered Texe installer (as per page). And the rest as per personal email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakAlarms Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 im slightly confused you have a texecom partner membership number?, but then say you are not? Also agree on the nsi statement. If your not you need to adjust that. I didnt think nsi wanted 10 systems, but been years since we applied so maybe its changed? Have they said they want to inspect 10, i thought it was 3-5? As mr h says you will be able to install some systems for inspection. You could also look at ssaib for approval that may be (for want of a better word) an easier option. You sound like you have most of the bases covered already. so just a matter of getting a few systems installed for them to inspect what you do. Out of curiosity, you say you have lost work cos your not nsi, do you mean approved generally or specifically nsi? I am with Texe for some time and I am registered. Maybe it is more now these days, I was told 8-10 installations. I contacted SSAIB already. I don't quite understand word "generally", all I am doing is as per NSI and BSI specification and I am doing it because I was looking for their approval. Now because I did lost so many jobs I am totally puzzled. In general no one want your installation without your NSI membership and you will not go further with approval process if you donit have 8 done (or in pipeline). Of course 8 must be done as per specification witout any infringement (e.g. 3A spure). Am I wrong in understanding? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 The reason they want to see 10 installations is because they need to see an overall of your work, they will talk to your customers and get a feel of your overall work. They also need to see consistency not just in the installation itself but in the paperwork and they way you have recorded the paperwork. NSI is there to show that installers can install to a required standard, that you comply with their codes of practice, and are able to look after the customer when things go wrong among many other things. If NSI was easy to achieve then everyone would have NSI, and if everyone had NSI there would be very little point to it. Oh and in the UK Polish interpretation wont stand up in a court of law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakAlarms Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 The reason they want to see 10 installations is because they need to see an overall of your work, they will talk to your customers and get a feel of your overall work. They also need to see consistency not just in the installation itself but in the paperwork and they way you have recorded the paperwork. NSI is there to show that installers can install to a required standard, that you comply with their codes of practice, and are able to look after the customer when things go wrong among many other things. If NSI was easy to achieve then everyone would have NSI, and if everyone had NSI there would be very little point to it. I do understand all of your points and I agree. I now what NSI want to achive and I have to say that this is tough for Company new on the market. I will be proud to get silver but number of lost jobs are frustrating (especially after invesing a bit in advertising). I posted asking how other did required number and one answer was the key - charity. I tried with friends, not much luck, now I will go this direction. I didn't mean interpretation, more meaning of this word as 10 posts were related to it, anyway thanks for constructive posts and points (unlike others). I really appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberprog Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 We don't have a partner programme naughty naughty and i'm sure NSI wont be too please with the link either You do have registered installers, sure his wording is a little off there, but he has said that he's a registered installer (as am I, 15904). The NSI part is the naughty one though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 but he has said that he's a registered installer (as am I, 15904). your texecom reg no. is only 12000+ higher than mine! so it might be easier for TSIi members that ain't got texecom number to shout out or we might make this the lonest thread in TSI history.... Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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