Guest anguscanplay Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 please ignore the above post from Arfur Mo, its at best wrong and at worst dangerous Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 a dialler will sometimes work with dsl, online but a digi will or modem (for sms) will rarely work. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 a dialler will sometimes work with dsl, online but a digi will or modem (for sms) will rarely work. what about earthing it to a gas pipe maybe ? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 no comment and it is public... securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 can we distinguish between voice dialer that i was referring to, and digi com please as both very different devices. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 can we distinguish between voice dialer that i was referring to, and digi com please as both very different devices.regs alan you also got your connections mixed up should be - 2, 3, 5 (A, BC, B) Angus Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 can we distinguish between voice dialer that i was referring to, and digi com please as both very different devices.regs alan Agreed, but all should be filtered. You might get away with it most of the time on some speech diallers but personally id always advise best practice. James securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 what about earthing it to a gas pipe maybe ? what are you on about now? safety earth bond strapping is very obvious as the reference the tag also points out, as far as i know metal gas pipes have been bonded to other services to drain any static discharge from causing sparks, obviously changed where later composite pioes are used - butthen there would be ni bonding to it to use - would there? ideally a 6ft stake is driven into the earth for an earth point, but rarely done retrospectivaly for telecom needs, given it might be knocked through the incoming gas, electric, water or sewer main by accident especially by a diy'er so a great idea - not! i suppose your 'safety advice' would be to recommend to whack it in with the earth terminal on the spur? after all it's 1mm so meeting minimum recommended requirements . my footer clearly states standing advice on competence. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 what are you on about now? safety earth bond strapping is very obvious as the reference the tag also points out, as far as i know gas is bonded to other services to drain any static discharge from causing sparks. ideally a 6ft stake is driven into the earth for an earth point, but rarely done retrospectivaly for telecom needs, and might be knocked through the incoming gas main by accident by a diy'er. so i suppose you would recommend to whack it in with the earth terminal on the spur? after all it's 1mm meeting minimum requirements regs alan your not allowed to use service pipes for return earth paths its as simple as that, unfortunatly most members of the public wouldnt know the difference between a main bond and an equipotential bond (TBH its not even an area I concern myself with for exactly this reason) so if they follow your advice of earthing it to the nearest point with a label they may even be putting 240v though their shiny new towel rail - ouch Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Agreed, loosening bonding connections cannot be advised. And yes id go for the panel earth every time. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/23573-telephone-wiring-advice-needed/page/4/#findComment-200773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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