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goncall

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  1. Theres me thinking all in the eu follow the same rules. Oh wait.

    they do they have all got there noses in the same trough,its failed and even the working man can see it, time to go back being your own country and running it how you see fit where your own people are put first,simple concept 

  2. i think once they go a few more will follow,the greeks wont go bust as putin will help them out and he will take pleasure in watching it all fall down the uk will vote to be out soon tho wouldnt be surprised if they bailed before that and did a deal with russia too too many on the gravy train 

  3. I have nothing against ADT, however, a local would just quote a GSM or Wifi solution for a lot less than £800, now ADT may also be a lot less than £800 but  engineer should have called the office and quoted the correct price. At the end of the day its about giving the customer the right information so they can make the right decision

    the way i read it is the adt engineer didnt try to get him to upgrade and gave the cost reason as to much to be viable and probably told the sub to get a socket fitted next to the panel,but then you have 2 members encouraging the sub to ditch adt for no reason than they are not a local,now thats what i call impartial advice  :-

  4. If you haven't got anything constructive to add to the discussion regarding the initial post then please don't bother, I can assure you I'm well aware of certain fire alarm engineers that frequent forums who have a theory that what they do is something akin to brain surgery.

     

    The simple matter is, you have no idea whats the issue is but feel the need to post verbal poo

    I'm sure you will work it out for yourself superstar,now fo back to DIY.com

  5. Most new builds here have a spur next to mains for the alarm. Cable up to external bell and all wireless. I don't like it but customers expect wireless these days. No part P here and never had a problem.

    most here are the illuminated signage kind saves on the street lamps

  6. Yeah thought that except customer says they got to choose the kitchen but were never offered an alarm

    Maybe some Co they had lined up pulled out

    Oh and there is a no bellbox covenant on the whole estate, oops!!

    im surprised,i know a lad who worked for a house bashing co doing installs for major builders he was racking the money in doing 3 and 4 first and second fixes a day tho people would rather upgrade the kitchen than have an alarm i agree

  7. Sized up a job this week where no wiring in a new build but a spur on a dedicated circuit marked alarm.

    Must have been for a wireless system but not even a keypad wire. Odd.

    all these new build housing estates have a dedicated mcb from the db from what ive seen you pay extra for 1st fix and extra again it you want a system installed by the builder

  8. Copy of a reply from NSI when I questioned certain lack of testing etc in a previous employ.

     

    Where an alarm company installs a fused spur, it is important that the electrical safety of the fused spur and the fixed electrical installation supplying the fused spur should have been checked.  Thus, the alarm company should carry out the appropriate BS 7671 inspection and tests on the electrical installation of the building.

     

    These electrical safety checks include inspecting and testing the main earthing arrangements at the main distribution board of the building, including the main equipotential earth bonding arrangements, inspecting and testing the means for automatic disconnection of supply (fusing or circuit breakers), etc, as well as checking earth loop impedance, and polarity at the fused spur point.  (Please note that I am not intending here to give a full list of the inspection and testing needed; simply to say that it will need to include these matters, among other matters).

     

    I would suggest that some of the inspections and tests on the electrical installation of the building may be best done before the fused spur is installed, in case there are electrical safety issues to resolve within the building.  It is of course necessary to carry out all the necessary electrical safety checks after the fused spur has been installed.  Records of these checks would need to be kept and a minor works certificate would need to be issued.

     

    Please note that electrical work in dwellings now falls within the scope of Part P of the Building Regulations under which certain work must legally be notified to the relevant local authority.  For example, this would apply if the fused spur is being run from a separate way (i.e. as a new circuit) from the distribution board.

     

    Yours sincerely

     

     

    Tony Weeks

    Technical Manager

    i doubt anyone does that,most alarm engineers dont have the gear nevermind knowing what type of supply or earthing arrangement is coming into a building,best to get a spark into do it saves the hassle

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