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    Scantronic 9800 Buzzer Sounding - no Fault Codes

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    Posted

    39 minutes ago, Netrix said:

    Thanks for the replies peeps - emergency call-out to stop the noise would have been £195 plus the vat or £55 plus vat if I take out a yearly maintenance plan with them for £120 plus vat. This company used to service the system for the previous owners so I opted for that route. They turned up and couldn't enter engineering mode (I was at work - the wife was in) so all they could do was power down the system to give us some peace.

    I'm not 100% happy with their diagnosis as they said that both the keypad and the control box had gone. I agree with their diagnosis that there was probably a surge when the power came back on (it may well have come on/off on/off) as it usually does when we have power cuts - so probably fried something in the control box, but the upshot is I am awaiting a quote for a replacement control box and jeypad.

     

    Any ball-park figures would be appreciated - I know you dont know which system they will quote for - but how much would the replacement kit be for a system with 2 x PIRs, one door contact, one external bell and an internal siren ??

     

    Cheers in advance

     

    Netrix

    Dude 

     

    Probably, failing , needs servicing

     

    Forget all that , this panel is known to lose its memory and lose the plot so it has failed and is faulty 

     

    As Pete said it's the panel not really the keypad 

     

    If your keys worked try keeping hold of the keypad it will sell on eBay for some change or more

     

    £500 is probably the cheaper end of the market but that's still with some kind of contract 

     

    £650 with a WiFi connection might be better to do , so pay a little more and get it over and done with

     

    What Happened To Regalsafe?

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    Posted · Edited by al-yeti

    7 hours ago, Alan Moody said:

     

     

    i admit they were awkward to programme m but they separated real Engineers  from the pretenders .

     

    #Regalsafe #rip 

    Rubbish , just poor investment into software and like many other devices manuals  programming written by the one who thinks it will be understood by everyone 

     

    No offence dude , doesn't seperate engineers and pretenders at all 

    All’s well except the buzzy transformer

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    Posted

    31 minutes ago, Clairol said:

    Scantronic9800 full working order but

    the transformer makes an intermittent buzzing that is driving me mad at night.

    tried reseating & packing but little improvement.

    The metal alarm box/cover seems to amplify the noise too.

    any thoughts on a fix much appreciated 

     

    Ebay have used ones cheap enough to try 

     

    I assume you made this post at the local library if your not upgrading your tech much , good to repair I guess 

    Pyronix Euro 46 v10 - engineer code

    in Control Panels (Public)

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    1 hour ago, planetf1 said:

    Ok thanks.. understand re codes. Agree about the bell. I presume it's internal batteries are flat (the system has not been maintained) in addition to the internal panel battery which I know has gone. The system is ~4 years old, and probably never been maintained.i

    Option d 

    Is probably better for you , your going to end up paying something even as diyer

     

    However is the cost of paying someone when you want to diy ,cheaper than buying just the panel new?

    Scantronic 500R+ low battery

    in General Security & Fire Queries

    Posted · Edited by al-yeti

    1 hour ago, ijustwantsleep said:

    I found that pressing 0 makes it sleep for half an hour but then goes back on and it hasn't stopped any longer than that since. Anyone have any idea please before I end up ripping it out and throwing it into the road?((: The manual is completely useless.

    Change battery?

     

    Rip off wall about 10am, let bell ring and then smash bell off after, thats Incase it triggers at nite for reasons only affecting u lol

    Wired Texecom PIR for Scantronic I-ON40H

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, rpatel2 said:

    Hi all

     

    I've recently purchased a new build home and unfortunately, the developer didn't offer the option to lay alarm cable for a wired installation.

     

    Due to financial constraints, i wanted to fit a predominately wireless system myself. I purchased a I-on40H kit with 3 x wireless PIRs, 1 x wireless door contact and 1 x wireless keypad. I also separately purchased one wired sounder. 

    I wanted to fit one additional wired PIR and i have a spare texecom wired PIR from my parents alarm system. Can i use this in my system? This PIR will involve an extremely short cable run from the panel, probably less than 1.5m. Please note, my alarm system isn't live yet as I'm waiting for an electrician to fit a spur which can power the controller, but i've been reading up on the manuals.

     

    I wasn't planning on using any wired PIRs, but i thought since I have this spare one, perhaps it might be useful and much cheaper than getting another wireless one. I'm getting a bit confused regarding the resistors, however, i know this texecom PIR has a built-in resistor (if required - using jumper settings)

    I have 6 core alarm cable, and i was going to use all 6 cores in my wiring. There are no other wired PIRs or wired door contacts, this one texecom PIR will be the only wired detector in my whole system. 

     

    I'm not quite sure if I need a resistor or where it goes, at present i've assumed I don't need it and the texecom PIR jumper setting is left open.

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    There is already a 2k2 resistor inserted between AUX and TAMP, i would remove this. 

    Can some please validate attached my wiring diagram, assuming texecom wired PIR would work.

     

     

    Many thanks for your help in advance,

    You don't need that aux tamper 

     

    Just set the pir resistor jumpers according to the panel resistor settings 

     

    And then you only need to connect the zone from the panel to the pir outer terminals one alarm one tamper one wire to each , other two terminals then stay unconnected 

    Looking for a replacement alarm

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    Posted · Edited by al-yeti

    8 minutes ago, dazza10 said:

    I've got an really old Optima MX6 system in my house, its a rental so over the years someone has been snip happy and cut wires away from the siren/speaker etc. I thought i'd give it a go and enable it again after finding out how to reset the codes. However the keypad isn't functioning and looking at it closer the tracks are burnt out and diagnosing it with a multimeter continuity isn't there either so the tracks are worn to the point i cba repairing them. However all the wiring and voltages test good for the rest of the system. 

     

    So onto my main question

     

    I'm looking to replace the panel with something a bit more in with todays standards but reuse the wiring and replace PIRs if needed. Ideal if it could have some smart function so i could arm/disarm away from home and a wireless keypad?

    Any thoughts?

     

    Thanks.

    Diy

     

    Scantronics ion 40 

     

    Still has free app connection 

     

    However it will take some time to set it up and depending on your ability complete it by yourself 

     

    Bonus is if any wires damaged else where you can still go wireless 

     

    Worth looking at cost and time and hassle and see if a local installer will do it for you

    Ring Cameras

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, PeterJames said:

    Mostly locksmiths and photo copiers shops installing it round these parts. I understand why people would use their local locksmith to install alarm tat, but photocopying shops selling alarms and CCTV on the side just seems bizarre 

    Extra money spinner

     

    I see fire companies using it for key holder call outs 

     

     

    Just now, al-yeti said:

    Extra money spinner

     

    I see fire companies using it for key holder call outs 

     

     

    They add a dualcom or something else to it tho lol

    Ring Cameras

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    Posted

    55 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

    I thought they renamed it Cif ?

    Suprised many are using it though 

     

    However ajax? If only they knew it was a cleaning product back in the day 

     

    Kit isn't bad  though as some have said  , I think they might be ahead of the game compared to orisec aswell , although orisec have more en stuff ?...

    Dimension 264 strange issue..

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    Posted

    41 minutes ago, martinhendo said:

    First ever post on here..

    Been in and around  the F&S installation  game for a few years now but have never come across this, maybe one of you guys could shine some light on it. 

    New installation of a 264, Line 1 has 2 x C072's and 1 x P026, no RKP or other modules on the bus, everything is programmed and tested on this line. 

    Line 2 has 5 x C072's and 2 x P026's, along with 1 CP037 RKP and MX4 Prox.

    Rio's are addressed from 201 > 207, all devices on Rios 201 > 206 have been tested with no issues, RKP and Prox reader function as expected 

    On to the issue, Rio 207 (Furthest away from main panel, power sourced from Rio 205, 23m distance, 680 resistor fitted and link removed in panel) 13.8 v @ Rio 207.

    On carrying out a walk test on each zone individually, Z2073 a DT along with Z2077 a DC gave no response to the walk test. 

    The other 6 zones had no issues. 

    The zone resistances of Z2073/Z2077 via option 21, 1K ohms when closed, and when resistance rises to 1K9 (roughly) the panel still returns a closed message, all zones are set to default EOL. 

    Replaced DT and DC, and tested cables from them @ the Rio, 1k closed, 1K9 Open (roughly) on each. Tested the cable from the detection end while connected to Rio, shows S/C on panel around 12 Ohms resistance. 

    Swapped the Rio for another that's known to work and the same issue remained.. 

    Honeywell may be getting a call when I am back @ site.. 

    Your input would be appreciated.. 

     

     

    What happens if you add another Rio on the end ? Programme it in 

     

     

    Sounds like job for jw or gg or some dude in err can't remember rich? 

    Hikvision ax Pro perhaps the worst professional alarm

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    Posted

    22 hours ago, Imnotshankled said:

    I have just seen my first AX Pro alarm and I'm really not a fan   the user interface is horrible and I'm sure it has some untrustworthy software 

     

    It worse than ajax

    But looks better than orisec right? 

    12 hours ago, james.wilson said:

    wow that bad. I dont think any pro installer will use it yet, but was surprised how ajax did with a self cert.

    I think any equipment sold to not meet the requirement it claims should be removed and all certificates and insurance revoked 

     

    Osec_Hikvision_AX_PRO_certificaat.pdf

    Looks as certified as any other panel no?

    Takeover system liablity [Split - Abacus 15R Panel]

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    Posted

    6 hours ago, james.wilson said:

    IMO anyone you doesnt program lock (engineer lock isnt the right word)their config will have an issue and so will their insurer.

    However the programming is the IP of the programmer. The equipment etc belongs to whoever purchased it

     

    Great , so lock all panels and no one can prove who locked it and how the programming was done last or by who

     

    Seeing as hkc doesn't have a back door , unless you know of one (barring being connected to securecom and know your remote code not exactly a back door tho) 

     

     

     

    Takeover system liablity [Split - Abacus 15R Panel]

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    Posted

    34 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

    Its a shame but the original programmer/co keeps the liability. Its something I want to change because it should be the incoming co/person. Unfortunately it isnt. Panels that allow code defaults are a liability. However i know how it looks but check your policy because you arnt fully insured they chase the one that is. If thats you oops

    I don't get this

     

    Your incoming and previous company is liable? 

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