20 replies to this topic

[Steve Bates]

Any one know any good intruder maintenance courses i can send an engineer on?

[MrHappy]

can only think of Tavacom training or c&g 1852

[Lwillis]

city and guilds 1852 doesnt really tell you much about maintenance, i did that course as part of my apprenticeship. cant remember being told much about well anything really. most of it was just evidence sheets.

[MrHappy]

Lwillis, on 30 December 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:

city and guilds 1852 doesnt really tell you much

its a strange industry as its rather hard to train in a standard manner, most train staff inhouse & try to limit the amout of product supported

[norman]

this also saves the job hoppers going for 2p per hour extra, and the ones that will steal from you to fill the shed prior to setting up on their own.

[alterEGO]

Lwillis, on 30 December 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:

city and guilds 1852 doesnt really tell you much about maintenance, i did that course as part of my apprenticeship. cant remember being told much about well anything really. most of it was just evidence sheets.

Did you fail?

[Lwillis]

alterEGO, on 31 December 2011 - 02:59 AM, said:

Did you fail?

no i did not fail, thanks very much i actually passed 4 months ahead of schedule.

all i was saying was it wasnt so much being trained to do the job it was more showing i could do it by providing evidence collected from my company

[alterEGO]

Lwillis, on 31 December 2011 - 07:01 PM, said:

no i did not fail, thanks very much i actually passed 4 months ahead of schedule.


all i was saying was it wasnt so much being trained to do the job it was more showing i could do it by providing evidence collected from my company

pass, credit or distinction?

[reidy]

The technical certificate is worthless compared to the NVQ anyway

Got this not so long back if anyones interested

Quote

Dear Employer


I am writing to confirm that the L2 Apprenticeship for learners who started in Autumn 2010 or January 2011 should be finishing soon after Christmas 2011 and I am writing to establish if your learner would like to progress onto the Advanced L3 Apprenticeship. Progression is dependant on the results of their L2 exams etc. and full details will be sent out in January of what is outstanding for those who have expressed a wish to continue.



Funding is available, details as:-



16 – 18 will be fully funded

19 – 24 will costs £2,750 or £3,375 for large employers with over 1000 employees.



If you would like further information or wish to register your learner for the Advance L3 Apprenticeship, please advise by return.


Kind Regards

[norman]

NVQ's are qualifications for mongs,

[fozzies]

Is not a btec nat in electronic engineering more appropriate than a vocational course? seems to me that the nvq's only prove you can do what your gonne learn to do working beside an engineer for a while, whereas a course educating theory may go beyond what that engineer can impart succesfully, and lead to a better understanding of the whole industry

Is not a btec nat in electronic engineering more appropriate than a vocational course? seems to me that the nvq's only prove you can do what your gonne learn to do working beside an engineer for a while, whereas a course educating theory may go beyond what that engineer can impart succesfully, and lead to a better understanding of the whole industry

[MrHappy]

norman, on 01 January 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

NVQ's are qualifications for mongs,

is a "level 2 "mong" better than "mongless" ?

[norman]

only just but can you fail?

[reidy]

A BTEC is probably a bit too much really

NVQ's are a record of what you have actually done, whereas a technical cert is just proof you passed the exam

C&G 1882 NVQ
NVQ Level 2 = Installation and team work
NVQ Level 3 = Service/Faults and leading a team

Plenty of mongs with and without NVQ's, good engineers are generally interested in what they do

Edited by reidy, 01 January 2012 - 07:05 PM.

[norman]

reidy, on 01 January 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

good engineers are generally interested in what they do

Yup, but a knowledge of electronics is less of a requirement imo these days, the industry has changed massively for the worse.

[alterEGO]

norman, on 01 January 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

only just but can you fail?

21 in my 'class' I got a distinction, one lad got a pass, 19 failed. I would say that is a very good example of our industry as a whole.
The exam was easy if you know how like anything. I got my days at college changed from once a week to once a quarter, it was a waste of time for the most part.

[MrHappy]

alterEGO, on 01 January 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

21 in my 'class' I got a distinction,

well done

alterEGO, on 01 January 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

one lad got a pass,

only 1 ? guess thats why you got a distinction ?

alterEGO, on 01 January 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

19 failed.

wow there more than one tree fairy out there ?

[reidy]

They actually changed the 1852 Intruder course in the end because so many failed where I went, when I did it, it was a level 3 qualification, now its level 2

[alterEGO]

reidy, on 01 January 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

They actually changed the 1852 Intruder course in the end because so many failed where I went, when I did it, it was a level 3 qualification, now its level 2

they binned it where I went.

MrHappy, on 01 January 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

well done



only 1 ? guess thats why you got a distinction ?



wow there more than one tree fairy out there ?

yep, and the class started with about 30.

[norman]

alterEGO, on 02 January 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

they binned it where I went.

Remploy?