norman Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Don't the new reg's stipulate parallel so the PA's are for certain, sort of confirmed! Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Don't the new reg's stipulate parallel so the PA's are for certain, sort of confirmed! 68858[/snapback] So when you are being beaten by Mr Masked Man with a shotgun you have two press two PAs, i wonder how they would do the confirmed bit on PAs. www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graale00 Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Lol, yeah it would be a silly idea, but I suppose the only confirm is the Double-Push button really.... is that what you were on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian c Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Don't the new reg's stipulate parallel so the PA's are for certain, sort of confirmed! 68858[/snapback] Can't possibly be right....can it? What if you had say 6 tills with PA's, but only 2 with staff on........you gotta go round and press all 6 buttons???!! If you don't know......ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graale00 Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Must of meant the Two-Push PA's. I'm gonna get me some single push buttons for the house though I think, save 2 quid don't it! Cheap Bas**ard I hear you all whisper. I'm looking for a scanny 9448 with the built in keypad if anyone knows of a good price?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 erm, I was jesting. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roonster Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Please if you're gonna give advice be sure you are correct!!) [/color] 68785[/snapback] hmmm im sure thats what i wrote. smeone must have changed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter James Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Please if you're gonna give advice be sure you are correct!!) [/color]hmmm im sure thats what i wrote. smeone must have changed it. Why would anyone want do do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian c Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 erm, I was jesting. 68883[/snapback] ah... If you don't know......ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graale00 Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Hello All, The attatchment is what we have in mind for our house with all zones etc, please excuse the **** drwaing I did it on Powerpoint. Any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated, if confidence is a problem PM me your thoughts. Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Hello All,The attatchment is what we have in mind for our house with all zones etc, please excuse the **** drwaing I did it on Powerpoint. Any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated, if confidence is a problem PM me your thoughts. Alex. 68939[/snapback] nice drawing..wish install would leave something like that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 [quote Not quite "moderation gone mad" (I'm quite sane thanks), nor was it "blind leading the blind" (I have perfect eyesight) why do you wear glasses then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated, if confidence is a problem PM me your thoughts. 68939[/snapback] Personally, I would use a panel with at least 16 zones, split the existing PA buttons and contacts onto their own zones and add PIR's to the kitchen and hall. I may (don't know for sure without looking) scrap the contacts on windows and use PIR's in the rooms instead. why do you wear glasses then.. Â 68961[/snapback] Someone once told him they made him look sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Personally, I would use a panel with at least 16 zones, split the existing PA buttons and contacts onto their own zones and add PIR's to the kitchen and hall. I may (don't know for sure without looking) scrap the contacts on windows and use PIR's in the rooms instead. Someone once told him they made him look sexy. 68963[/snapback] wasnt me...i just said he looks handsome.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graale00 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 No definately want to keep contacts, cats are kept in kitchen at night and its an easy access point for the criminals among us. The PA's can be put as series on one zone, true enough it will be harder to fault find, but it's 3 devices on the circuit which is in a domestic property so it just means running a few metres to the panel every now and then if required. I was thinking about adding a heavy duty contact on the shed, putting some cable ducts down in the garden coming up into the shed, but an engineer and me were talking and he said to be careful because the current may not be enough on a cheap panel on a scanny, but to be honest I think its only about 7 metres away from the panel so it should be fine. By the way could anyone send me a quick diagram on a push to exit access control, if anyone haves one knocking around and a scanner, would like to use it as Field Evidence but left mine in a panel ( alexgraham@mickydip.e7even.com Boys n Girls Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Id definetly do as lurch as suggested and put pirs int the kitchen and hall, pet friendly ones. As for your shed 7m wont be a problem, you could always add a wireless transmitter and receiver to the system. I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Get a panel that you can have 1 device per zone, it will make life easier all round. The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellman Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Get a panel that you can have 1 device per zone, it will make life easier all round. 69023[/snapback] QFA Service Engineer and all round nice bloke ) The views above are mine and NOT those of my employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MSI New York Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Get a panel that you can have 1 device per zone, it will make life easier all round. 69023[/snapback] Am I missing something? I try to put one device, or two maximum, on all my installs. This is not the 1980's, after all, when all you can buy are eight zone panels. Most of my commercial panels have 8 zones, but my residential installs are all Napco GEM 3600s, up to 36 zones with keypads and zone expanders, and I'm in the middle of a GEM 9600, up to 96 zones (we are using 46 zones). It adds maybe an extra $200 to the cost of materials, and another 3 hours to the labor side, and it saves you lots of time on service calls. Is it different on your side of the pond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You've lost me? You mean you don't usually use anything more than 8 zone panels no matter how many devices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secboy Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Am I missing something? I try to put one device, or two maximum, on all my installs. This is not the 1980's, after all, when all you can buy are eight zone panels. Most of my commercial panels have 8 zones, but my residential installs are all Napco GEM 3600s, up to 36 zones with keypads and zone expanders, and I'm in the middle of a GEM 9600, up to 96 zones (we are using 46 zones). It adds maybe an extra $200 to the cost of materials, and another 3 hours to the labor side, and it saves you lots of time on service calls. Is it different on your side of the pond? 69892[/snapback] Just as a mater of interest Ari do you some times fit two PIR's to the same circuit without latching LED's?. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You've lost me? You mean you don't usually use anything more than 8 zone panels no matter how many devices? 69911[/snapback] That is not what he said.did he?? He said that unlike in the 1980's when there were only 8-zone panels.......... Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 That is not what he said.did he?? 69919[/snapback] I'm not sure, I think he said he uses 8 zone panels and also said he doesn't? I'll await clarification from the man himself before venturing into a complex reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RICHL Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 The trick is, to read it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I have, it makes it worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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