Guest colin Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Would it be normal for a small/medium sized moth to be able to set off a PIR? The alarm went off just as we went to bed and upon entering the room/zone which had been triggered there was a moth sitting next to the PIR. I assume that it just happened to fly next to the PIR so to the detector it looked like a big moving object in the room. Is there anything I can do to prevent false alarms like this? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian c Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 It's cetainly possible, for the reason you described. It may have landed on the sensor. There's not much you can do about it really If you don't know......ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hastings Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I had one customer who used one of those 'pritt stick' type insect repellant sticks and wiped it all over the pir's, including the lenses ! It just made them go all sticky and a funny brown colour, we had to change them all eventually as they did not detect anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian c Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I stand corrected! If you don't know......ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Electrics Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Yes agree it is possible. Also this time of year we are plagued with daddy long legs witch also set of PIRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 OK, thanks all. At least you've confirmed that it's not a problem with my system setup. LOL @ Norman's pic - that thing looks like it could set off a PIR all by itself!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Just to add - it makes sense to dust around each movement detector and remove any cobwebs with some regularity (even if you really can't see them). An insect walking across the front of the detector will appear the same size as a human moving in the room, hence the false alarm. Spiders etc get attracted to the warmth and a tiny spider could get inside the detector (if it is not sealed 100%) and walk across the lens every morning at 3am. Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest G.J.M Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 used to get a few call outs to spiders in sensors or walking across lens. The customer was always not convinced until i opened the cover and out ran the spider. Used to get a few calls to fire systems by corn flies inside the detector chamber. The customers think we are mad putting flea collars around the detector but it really works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter James Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Moth balls work. The detector will only see the moth/spider as something big if it got close enough. Because moths etc dont like the smell of Moth balls they dont go near. The downside is your house will smell like an old lady's knicker draw. (not that I would know what an old lady's knicker draw would smell like) Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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