Battle Of The Bellboxes

[jb-eye]

since gardtec had a problem with the novagard.

Never had a faulty Elmdene bell

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This sounds like the problem that switched me. The one where the PCB ignites FUNNY MY ELMDENES WORK FINE AS WELL. And the screen print doesent fade on the elmdene same as it did on Gardtec. Sorry Monteey mate i think ill hang on for the moment.

Jef

[j.paul]

This sounds like the problem that switched me. The one where the PCB ignites no.gif FUNNY MY ELMDENES WORK FINE AS WELL. And the screen print doesent fade on the elmdene same as it did on Gardtec. Sorry Monteey mate i think ill hang on for the moment.

Never had one ignite but had a lot of problems with tampers, also there use to be a design fault with the metal sounders

Have not used them for the last two years so they may be different now

[CompostCORNER]

Never had one ignite   but had a lot of problems with tampers, also there use to be a design fault with the metal sounders

Have not used them for the last two years so they may be different now

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Do the Novagard 4's still blow the sab batteries? I remember having to change plenty of 7.5v Nicads due to them falling to bits with the odd cell disentigrating after only being installed for less than 12 months.

[BUSTER]

We use Gardtec Nova 2 metals - never have a problem

[Guest RICHL]

Ive never had one ignite either or heard of it before, except on the Lyntec boxes with a speaker - IIRC there was a warning in all the papers about them!

[Guest RICHL]

Do the Novagard 4's still blow the sab batteries? I remember having to change plenty of 7.5v Nicads due to them falling to bits with the odd cell disentigrating after only being installed for less than 12 months.

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Not one since they went onto NMh batteries a few years ago.

[Guest]

Hi everyone,

Im new to going it alone, but have about 3 years experience just doing alarms for a local electrical contractor, (quality outfit, metal cased Gardtec 840s only fitted) and 3 years at the MOD, mostly very specialist CCTV and vehicle stuff that has little or no place in the real world, sadly.

Anyway, Im trying to choose a new bellbox;

I'm going for quality not price, but want to avoid an oblong type box, too many of them round here (Im covering Bath & Wilts) all with horrible colours and tacky graphics. From my personal research, householders dont want a yellow or red box on their lovely house! But of course, if you are the Largest National Company, you put what you want up! B)

Rant over.

Anyway, heres what I've looked at or considered so far;

Elmdene SA2000 - looks cool in the pictures, but too big and bulky, shame

CQR Multibox with Aries - Hmmm, havent seen a live unit yet, any good?

CQR Protecta - Looks nice again, but any experience out there? No samples yet.

Ventcroft Vision - 'reassuring expensive'. Also reassuringly blind to my nice letter asking for some brochures and a lid sample on sale or return, since I cant find anyone locally that will sell the things without a £10 special order charge. CQR are also guilty of this, but I can get lids and samples easily from Gardiner for them.

Everyone else locally seems to be drifting onto 'Delta' shaped boxes so I want to avoid this. It would be great to put up a really slim Elmdene Rapier style (i.e metal) box but no-one seems to make them anymore at a reasonable cost.

Ok, now Im a big Scantronic fan, but what is everyone thinking about the £** wonder, the 9651. It MUST be made in China or something, right 

I'd only use it for Domestics myself, I suppose, again any opinions would be great. I've had one on the bench for a few weeks with no probs though.

Finally, is it possible to get Contract work? Ive already written to the locals several times with not even a response, so do the big boys like to cover their 'out of area' installations by sub contracting? I already have my CIS and accounts for my Electrical sub contracting work (which one day I hope to ditch entirely, fingers crossed).

Thanks for reading all this,

Stu )

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the yellow hex is the most famous bell box in the land...i dont see what there is mad to get about....

[ARJ]

Personally, I'd avoid the CQR stuff, like the plague, -

especially the Multibox. I know the Secom boys hated them when they came out.

-All those resistors, self learn process and about a dozen screws that all need 300 turns in order to get three covers off before you can get to the terminals !

I was using the Pyronix Belle for a while unitil I went back to service them 12 months later and noticed the LEDs had gone from a slow steady 'left, right, left, right' to a manic 100 cycles per second. - Ok until you put a nice new one on the nextdoor neighbours and he notices...

The one good thing about them was that you could get an LED module to make the dummy box match the live box.

Does anyone know:

i) if Pyronix have addressed/fixed the increasing speed of the LED's yet?

ii) Other than the flashguard, who does a dummy LED module, to match an equivilent 'live' box ?

ARJ

[datadiffusion]

the yellow hex is the most famous bell box in the land...i dont see what there is mad to get about....

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Um, I was ranting about crappy coloured bellboxes the OMBs use round our area!? And made the point that the yellow peril goes against my probably very narrow minded views on bellboxes!

Stu.

[Adi]

Texecom should be bringing there dummy module out soon.