February 2, 200521 yr comment_39152 Tried to post a question in the Fire Alarm section, but can't. Hope it's ok to here. I have to link the firealarm in a pub to the extractor fans in the kitchen. Alarm sounds, trips the motor starter. Easy to do using the aux relay contacts in the panel, and the panel 24v supply to power a relay. (which will open the contacts on the fan starter). Ok, the question..... Does the cable from the panel to the relay ( which will be in a gewiss box approx 5m away), have to be FP or similar?? Email : martin@askthetrades.co.uk Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/ Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 2, 200521 yr comment_39154 Does the cable from the panel to the relay ( which will be in a gewiss box approx 5m away), have to be FP or similar?? I am 99% sure it does, but it wouldnt hurt to use it anyway! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39154 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 2, 200521 yr Author comment_39156 No it doesnt have to be be in FP but obviously is good practice to run it in FP. 39155[/snapback] guys. I was thinking that if I was using the panel 24v to feed the relay, if the cable suffered fire damage, the panel fuse would blow = no sounders! Email : martin@askthetrades.co.uk Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39156 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 2, 200521 yr Author comment_39164 24v AUX is separately fused generally 39158[/snapback] That makes sense Email : martin@askthetrades.co.uk Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39164 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 2, 200521 yr comment_39186 Does the cable from the panel to the relay ( which will be in a gewiss box approx 5m away), have to be FP or similar?? 39152[/snapback] Depends who the fire officer is, but good practice says yes. I've linked relays from fire panels to intruder alarms before and FP has been specified even though it is just connected to a standard relay in a plastic box at the other end. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39186 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 3, 200521 yr comment_39274 Ive done that on addressable systems, FP from output unit to contactor then standard mains cable there after. I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39274 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 3, 200521 yr comment_39276 I thought only the sounders had to be FP? If you don't know......ask. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39276 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 4, 200521 yr comment_39281 I thought only the sounders had to be FP? 39276[/snapback] Technically yes, but it's usually easier to wie it all in FP than try and convince the person who drew up the spec any different than they have decided. I think in general everyone wires the complete fire alarm in FP, I always have and I'm not one for doing unneccesary work. It's just become one of those done things. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39281 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 4, 200521 yr comment_39283 It's just become one of those done things. 39281[/snapback] Agreed If you don't know......ask. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39283 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
February 4, 200521 yr comment_39284 All cabling and associated cabling MUST be in FP, not allowed to use red twin and earth anymore for call points etc. PG Security Systems Somerset SSAIB Certificate of Merit Installers. www.pgsecurity.co.uk Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4974-fire-alarm/#findComment-39284 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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