Guest Guest_Bill_* Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 My alarm installer has used surface mounted door sensors, ie magnet on the door, reed switch on door frame. I want him to use the hidden type, ie the magnet is put into a hole drilled into the door and the reed sensor in a matching hole drilled into the frame. The installer says he's not allowed to do that, the British Standard that he has to follow apparently states that, for outward opening external doors, the reed switch/magnet cannot be the hidden type but must be surface mounted inside the door. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteey Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 If its a upvc door then you definately cant have flush contacts for obviose reasons What are you on about?? Course you can put flush contacts in upvc doors. ive done loads of them. Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteey Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 The same way you do flush contacts on metal doors, the frames are hollow Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Engineer Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 If its a upvc door then you definately cant have flush contacts for obviose reasons What are you on about?? Course you can put flush contacts in upvc doors. ive done loads of them.You may have invalidated a lot of 10 year guarantees then Montey, I always get the customer to ask there door company first just to cover myself.A lot of the newer doors have metal across the top & bottom, part of the multi lock system, these cant be done. ........................................................ Dave Partridge (Romec Service Engineer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteey Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Hmm im confused Post number 3 has my name on it but i didnt write it, has the poltergeist struck?? Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteey Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Ooops ignore last post, im just loosing the plot here Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteey Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Well a lot of doors i come across just have plates on the sides that the lock hook mechanism slides into thus allowing a flush contact to be installed in between. As to the 10 year guarantee claim, fair enough but im sure upvc arent the only ones covered, how many metal/wood doors do you drill without giving a second thought to any guarantee Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_Bill_* Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 It's a wooden door. Installer said reason was water should not get to the sensor - in fact it would be inside the door seal and I offered to get encapsulated reed switches but no good apparently..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morph Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 On an outward opening door a flush contact could be comprimised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteey Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 If it was possible to see the contact/magnet from th outside then i would say he is probably correct to fit a surface contact ugly though it looks, however if you cant your installer is a lazy git and you should make him fit a flush contact whether it be sealed or not. Weather can be a factor but if the door is correct installed/sealed then this is not an excuse. Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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