Hi guys 

 

I'm an electrician by trade but been asked to try sort an alarm out at the property I'm currently working at and was hoping some one could offer abit of advice 

 

The alarm panel is a honeywell accenta g4 and the pir's are honeywell 8IR103

 

When trying to set it just keeps beeping and doesn't actually set. When pressing the up arrow it gives all 8 zones in arming fault.

 

When trying to do a walk test all zones are already 1 rather than changing from 0 to 1. 

 

I've factory reset the panel to default settings and still the same.

 

I've took zone one out and put a a link in. The arming fault disappears on zone 1 and walk test is 0 like it should.

 

What am I missing with the pic's? Are they compatible with the panel or is they a normally open or normally closed that needs changing? 

 

It's like the pir's are staying open and not closing. Also the leds aren't working on the pir's even though the jumper is set to on.

 

Any help would be appreciated 

Edited June 8, 20241 yr by sparks-2012

1 minute ago, sparks-2012 said:

Hi guys 

 

I'm an electrician by trade but been asked to try sort an alarm out at the property I'm currently working at and was hoping some one could offer abit of advice 

 

The alarm panel is a honeywell accenta g4 and the pir's are honeywell 8IR103

 

When trying to set it just keeps beeping and doesn't actually set. When pressing the up arrow it gives all 8 zones in arming fault.

 

When trying to do a walk test all zones are already 1 rather than changing from 0 to 1. 

 

I've factory reset the panel to default settings and still the same.

 

I've took zone one out and put a a link in. The arming fault disappears on zone 1 and walk test is 0 like it should.

 

What am I missing with the pic's? Are they compatible with the panel or is they a normally open or normally closed that needs changing? 

 

It's like the pir's are staying open and not closing. Also the leds aren't working on the pir's even though the jumper is set to on.

 

Any help would be appreciated 

Cable faults?

 

If you link out all the zones does that clear the LEDs?

1 hour ago, al-yeti said:

Cable faults?

 

If you link out all the zones does that clear the LEDs?

 

On all 8 cables and only on the alarm cores? Tamper and voltage working as it should 

 

I only linked out 1 zone as was strapped for time

 

 

23 minutes ago, sparks-2012 said:

 

On all 8 cables and only on the alarm cores? Tamper and voltage working as it should 

 

I only linked out 1 zone as was strapped for time

 

 

If all the cables took one route then anything is possible 

 

If it were me , Identify zone 1 and see what the equipment is at the other end 

 

Defaulting is good , but now you need to set each zone attributes 

 

Hence why I would link out all the zones and trace them one by one and clear each fault 

 

And that's once I know the panel is clear of all faults 

 

I can't remember the panel much , but I assume it was a global tamper so loop that aswell

 

Does the external bell work? 

1 hour ago, sparks-2012 said:

I'm an electrician by trade but been asked to try sort an alarm out at the property I'm currently working at and was hoping some one could offer abit of advice

 

 

don't get involved in alarms is best advice I can offer...

 

1 hour ago, sparks-2012 said:

It's like the pir's are staying open and not closing. Also the leds aren't working on the pir's even though the jumper is set to on.

 

 

do you have 12v dc at every pir, have you checked the fuse...

 

9 hours ago, al-yeti said:

If all the cables took one route then anything is possible 

 

If it were me , Identify zone 1 and see what the equipment is at the other end 

 

Defaulting is good , but now you need to set each zone attributes 

 

Hence why I would link out all the zones and trace them one by one and clear each fault 

 

And that's once I know the panel is clear of all faults 

 

I can't remember the panel much , but I assume it was a global tamper so loop that aswell

 

Does the external bell work? 

 

Yes external bell works find. Tamper works at pirs and yes it's a global tamper.

9 hours ago, MrHappy said:

 

 

don't get involved in alarms is best advice I can offer...

 

 

 

do you have 12v dc at every pir, have you checked the fuse...

 

I try not to but the old while your here can you have a look at this. The ones pir I took down had 12v at it. I did notice in the pir there was 2 eol connections with nothing in. Is that possibly why?.

32 minutes ago, sparks-2012 said:

 

Yes external bell works find. Tamper works at pirs and yes it's a global tamper.

I try not to but the old while your here can you have a look at this. The ones pir I took down had 12v at it. I did notice in the pir there was 2 eol connections with nothing in. Is that possibly why?.

The PIR you mentioned earlier doesn't have eol are you saying model is different now?

23 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

The PIR you mentioned earlier doesn't have eol are you saying model is different now?

This is the pir with model 8IR103. If you scroll down you can see a picture of the terminals 

 

https://www.citysecuritysystems.co.uk/honeywell-8ir103-pet-security-product

Has it never worked?

5 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

Has it never worked?

 

Not sure. They moved in in February and hasn't worked but unsure if the previous owners had it working